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House Values and Race Tracks(Nascar)

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Tara Ellis

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Question for all you appraisers out there that have race tracks, specifically Nascar ones, in your areas.

A site is being looked at in Colorado(with new homes 1.5 - 6 miles away) for a speedway... I am wondering, what have you seen happen to the economy and house values in the areas around the speedways? Was there a rise in values? A decrease? Were they stable? Did the economy grow?

I am trying to make a more educated decision and would like your thoughts and input.

TIA
 
In Wyandotte County Kansas the new track exploded building in the area. homes started going up, and everybody was looking to put a business close by, expecting the track to drawl huge crowds to the area. It did for race day once or twice a year. Unfortunately there is not enough daily existence to support the investments.

Housing values have stalled, several business have closed and moved back towards the populated areas. Still watching to see how it progresses.
 
Yeahhhhawwwwww....I just loves me some NASCAR! Does anyone ever feel like the media is trying to force us to like NASCAR...Isn't it the same old race track with new drivers going around in circles for hours on end....can someone explain why they love it so much?
 
Here's a quick 10-year summary of Texas Motor Speedway, Ft. Worth/Denton County, TX. The local school district has more than doubled in attendance. New retail and hotel development in proximity. However, much of the retail development is due to Alliance Airport and the Industrial Park development in the area, not the track.

Residential growth is rapid with numerous new subdivisions in the area. Again, it's not because of the track, but rather due to the northwards growth patterns and development around Alliance Airport. No negative impact except for traffic on race weekends. No market resistance, no decline in values as the track is far enough away from the subdivisions that there is no noise from the track. If you're half a mile away, it's no worse during the race than being near an airport flight pattern.

Does it bring growth? TMS brings the equivalent of the Superbowl to the DFW area twice a year. More than twice the number of people that attend the Superbowl (almost 350,000 over the weekend) comes to the track. Then you have the Indy Cars and other events. It's a great boost to the economy with no significant negatives on the local economy. Even the naysayers agree now that it's a great investment in the local economy...especially as there was no govenrment outlay beyond the cost of the land.

The bottom line is that a track in and of itself does not bring retail and residential growth. If you've ever been to Talladgeah, you would see that it is in the middle of nothing. No retail, no growth. However, a major track does generate growth in that it is a large economic engine that brings in major dollars into the overall local economy without the government having to spend a bunch to bring it in. Hotels, restaurants, etc all make money, which works through the economy. However, unlike an airport or other major businesses, a track is a one-three weekend income generator, not a year-round generator that provides income through a major part of the year.

It has taken almost 15 years for the Ballpark in Arlington (home of the Texas Rangers) to begin to bring in businesses into the area, and then only because the Cowboys decided to build their new stadium next to it.

So, the end of this long, rambing story is, stadiums and racetracks in and of themselves do not generate ancilliary development (retail, residential, etc). However, they do generate income which flows through the entire economy. Further, the presence of such facilities do not, in and of themselves, create negatives that adversely affect development.
 
In the area I cover, the real estate agents tend to show and sell the homes when the track is not up and running. The new buyers most of the time put them back on the market in less then a year if they are not into racing. The noise is something for a lot of people to deal with if they are not into race cars.

My Pastor has a couple of race cars and is the Chaplin at several of the tracks around Wisconsin. I do sponser one one of the cars in his "Race Car Ministry". A couple of other members also sponser the cars as well.

Yes, before I started to Rodeo in my younger days I did the dirt track thing for a couple of years. Just like my son did the dirt bike racing before giving it up for Bull riding. You just got to try it all at least once. :Eyecrazy:
 
Thanks for your posts so far, I truly do appreciate it - keep 'em coming!!

Let me give you a little insight to the area here in Denver. The area that ISC is looking at developing a speedway is East of a major toll road about 1.5 - 6 miles from a growing, new master planned community - one of which housed the local 'parade of homes' in 2006. There are 2 major train tracks that are within .5-4 miles of this area.... and DIA is within eyeshot/ear shot. The proposed raceway will seat 75,000-82,000 and is about 15-20 minutes NE of Denver. In fact the speedway would be adjacent to the fencing at DIA and some runways.

I have seen values in a holding pattern or most cases they are decreasing - in part due to we are a county with one of the highest # of foreclosures in the state. 1/2 the number of building permits were pulled in 2006 than in 2005... it is slowing down.

Many people are touting our values will decline with the speedway being built.

The economy here is barely starting, grocery stores dont want to come until there are X number of rooftops. We are a few thousand off of that. I think Walmart just inked a deal and will be the first department/grocery store. This past year, we finally got a Sonic, gas station and a little strip mall with 2 other strip malls being built at other major intersections.

I would live 3.5 miles from the proposed site. I don't think noise would be an issue since we have train tracks near by and DIA.

I appreciate all your input... it truly is helping me to take step out of living here and looking at all the situations.
 
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Hey Hall, which businesses by the track have closed? Every time I go out there I am always shocked at just how packed it is. I don't pay a lot of attention, but it seems that every time I am there there are two or three new restaurants or shops, I haven't noticed anything closing. As far as housing values go it does appear to be stagnating a bit in some subdivisions. I don't think that it has anything to do with the track though. I think that Wyandotte is attempting to tax themselves into oblivion. How many houses out there have you appraised that the county's appraised value was way above what it was actually worth. I am doing a house right now that is worth $190K but the county appraised it at $221000. Almost $4000 a year in taxes which is insane for this area.
 
A race track is a positive from what I saw in North Carolina. The only negative is traffic during the week of a major race, but the impact of that would be minimal on developments at least 1.5 miles away (assuming reasonable infrastructure exists.) A NASCAR race is a major boon to a local economy. Race fans spend money like drunken fools. :rof:
 
Just because ISC is touting it doesn't make it fact. The NY track in Long Island is effectively history. Washington isn't ponying up for a track and it probably won't happen. ISC had Rockingham and closed it. Pike's Peak had a Busch race, but Nascar (part of ISC) pulled the race.

In addition, ISC and NASCAR are facing a lawsuit alleging monopolistic control of NASCAR in that they own the races and control the tracks as well. There's a track in Kentucky as well as another in the Midwest built in part by Rusty Wallace that are both campaigning for a race. There's 38 races now and realistcally the time factors are such that you can't add any more. Where's the race going to come from? Think ISC's going to drop one of its races in the Southeast after the fiasco with dropping the Darlington race? California hasn't sold out and it only seats 75000. ISC is having a lot of problems with the fans. Compare that with Bruton Smith's MSI. Las Vegas sells out each year at 165000. Texas, another MSI track, sells out all but a few of the cheap seats at both races, as well as two truck races and two Busch races (see above post).

Again, unless and until you see dirt moving, don't count on a race track.
 
In Wyandotte County Kansas the new track exploded building in the area. homes started going up, and everybody was looking to put a business close by, expecting the track to drawl huge crowds to the area. It did for race day once or twice a year. Unfortunately there is not enough daily existence to support the investments.

Housing values have stalled, several business have closed and moved back towards the populated areas. Still watching to see how it progresses.

I don't know much about the area and how the track impacted it but the Nebraska Furniture Mart is going gang busters there. Every time I have been in Cabelas it has been busy. Never been to Great Wolf Lodge but it appears to be doing well. From the looks of it there is quite a bit of development there.

How is the noise around there when the track is in operation. How far away can your hear hear it. How close are houses to the track.
 
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