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Housing Bubble Bursting?

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No help for ARM refinance that will help anytime soon

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/text-fomc-statement/story.aspx?guid=%7B29FCFA85%2DB375%2D43C4%2D8903%2DDF8EACF57F2C%7D

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Here is the statement released by the Federal Open Market Committee on Wednesday after it held overnight interest rates steady:
"The Federal Open Market Committee decided today to keep its target for the federal funds rate at 5-1/4 percent.

"Recent indicators have been mixed and the adjustment in the housing sector is ongoing. Nevertheless, the economy seems likely to continue to expand at a moderate pace over coming quarters.

"Recent readings on core inflation have been somewhat elevated. Although inflation pressures seem likely to moderate over time, the high level of resource utilization has the potential to sustain those pressures.

"In these circumstances, the Committee's predominant policy concern remains the risk that inflation will fail to moderate as expected. Future policy adjustments will depend on the evolution of the outlook for both inflation and economic growth, as implied by incoming information.

"Voting for the FOMC monetary policy action were: Ben S. Bernanke, Chairman; Timothy F. Geithner, Vice Chairman; Thomas M. Hoenig; Donald L. Kohn; Randall S. Kroszner; Cathy E. Minehan; Frederic S. Mishkin; Michael H. Moskow; William Poole; and Kevin M. Warsh."
 
Moody's Will Change Ratings Process on Subprime Loans

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601009&sid=a.VhcxeoFkE4&refer=bond

March 21 (Bloomberg) -- Moody's Investors Service will change the way it rates bonds backed by second-lien subprime home loans that have contributed to turmoil in mortgage markets.


``In light of the performance of second lien subprime residential mortgage loans in recent securitizations, Moody's is implementing changes in its methodology to assess the adequacy of credit enhancement in transactions currently being rated,'' New York-based Moody's said in a statement today.


The new method will be published by the end of this month, Moody's said, without providing further details. U.S. investors, ratings companies and lawmakers have begun to reevaluate the way mortgage-bond risk is measured and assessed after lax lending standards led to a rise in the number of bad loans.


``People are going to understand risk differently,'' Mark Adelson, an analyst for Nomura Securities in New York, said in an interview today. ``Opinions are influenced a lot by the current conditions.''
 
Fed May Temper Its Optimism After Mortgage Meltdown

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601206&sid=agbvcpy7KXmg&refer=realestate

March 21 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke may be finding his optimism on consumer spending dented after the rout in subprime mortgages and decline in stocks.


Fed policy makers, who set interest rates today, may tweak their statement to reflect risks to the ``moderate'' economic expansion flagged at the prior meeting. In the past four weeks, more than $700 billion has been wiped from U.S. stock-market value and reports showed late payments on subprime mortgages jumped to a four-year high.
 
Subprime Mortgage Buyers Should Be Liable, Frank Says

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601206&sid=aqBEnp7UtpsE&refer=realestate

I can see the politicians are now helping the borrower assign blame for their problems. It's not the appraiser after all; it's the greedy warehouse lenders and investment bankers. :rof:


March 21 (Bloomberg) -- Investors who create and buy bonds backed by subprime mortgages should assume some liability in the event the loans prove to be fraudulent or the result of deception, U.S. Representative Barney Frank said.


Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said yesterday he plans to introduce legislation to address subprime and predatory lending and require so-called ``assignee liability,'' or hold buyers of subprime mortgages partially responsible for flawed loans.


``People will say, `Well if you have assignee liability, people won't buy certain mortgages.' Good,'' Frank told members of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers in Washington. ``Because then they won't be made and that is probably the best enforcement mechanism that we can have.''
 
Goodbye easy mortgage money

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/no-more-easy-mortgage-money/story.aspx?guid=%7B42C8524A%2D6E2F%2D4833%2DA678%2DE66297E1FCF2%7D

CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- The era of easy mortgage money has disappeared in the wake of problems in loans made to some of the riskiest borrowers at the height of the housing boom, with lenders now asking for more financial documents, bigger down payments and proof of greater credit responsibility from would-be borrowers.


But they are limiting options even for the most creditworthy borrowers and forcing first-time home buyers and those with less than stellar credit to go back to the drawing board and rethink their purchase or refinancing options. Lenders also are shying away from loans that cover 100% of a property's value and looking askance at cash-out refinancing requests.

Those shut out due to stricter lending standards should focus on improving their credit scores and building savings, working toward the goal of buying a home in the future, Johnson said.

One group of borrowers that will find the going more difficult is made up of those who choose no- or stated-income loans, said A.W. Pickel III, president of LeaderOne Financial Corp. in Lenexa, Kan.

Case in point: LeaderOne Financial had a no-income, 100% jumbo loan available up until last week, he said. Borrowers who applied for this loan weren't subprime -- in fact, they required a credit score of at least 720. Today, it's a 95% mortgage instead.


Other challenges will hit those on the fringe between prime mortgages, for borrowers who are the best credit risks, and subprime loans, for the risky borrowers, experts said.


Borrowers with a credit score under 620 are likely to feel the most pressure with regard to stricter standards, said Mark Lefanowicz, president of E-Loan.


And credit scores will probably need to be higher for borrowers at the fringe to reach prime status, said Eric Weinstein, president of Centreville, VA.-based Carteret Mortgage Corp. The credit score that separated an A borrower from an Alt-A borrower, the first step down to subprime, used to be about 620 and now is scooting up to the 660 range, he said.

With many housing markets throughout the country cooling significantly, more homeowners aren't able to tap home equity and instead are missing payments, defaulting on their loans and heading for foreclosure -- often after the interest rate on an adjustable-rate loan resets. That has caught lenders' attention, even if they aren't hit by the subprime fallout, making them more conservative as a result.
 
`Short Sellers' Who Predicted Subprime Rout See More Declines

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=adGBgBug_kKU&refer=home%20

March 21 (Bloomberg) -- The collapse in shares of subprime- mortgage companies over the past month rewarded so-called short sellers who bet that rising defaults among the riskiest borrowers would curb lenders' profits.


Some traders who predicted declines in shares of New Century Financial Corp., NovaStar Financial Inc. and Accredited Home Lenders Holding Co. say such stocks may fall further as loan delinquencies increase and demand for mortgage-backed securities wanes. New Century sank 90 percent last month, while NovaStar lost 73 percent. Accredited slid 54 percent.


``The subprime guys are history,'' said Steven Persky, chief executive officer of the $1.1 billion Los Angeles-based hedge fund Dalton Investments LLC, which began shorting shares of subprime lenders two years ago. ``They're ultimately going to have to file'' for bankruptcy.


New Century, NovaStar and Accredited Home were some of the most-shorted U.S. stocks from Feb. 12 to March 12, the date of last month's short-sale statistics from the New York Stock Exchange.

Short interest in the stocks climbed last month after New Century, the biggest specialist in home loans made to people with relatively low credit ratings, and HSBC Holdings Plc, Europe's biggest bank, said losses from bad U.S. home loans were piling up faster than they expected.


About 36 percent of New Century's shares available for trading, or float, was borrowed and sold to profit from falling prices. Traders sold short 46 percent of Accredited's float, while 44 percent of NovaStar's float was shorted.
 
If you don't read any other post in this thread...

...read this.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/business/columnists.nsf/davidnicklaus/story/C93028533CD7895B862572A5000AA3E6?OpenDocument

Subprime loans account for just 14 percent of the nation's mortgage market, and borrowers are delinquent on only 13 percent of those.
But if shrewd investors think it's safe to commit more money to this sector, the end of the meltdown may be closer than we think.
Note carefully that the article does not claim that we don't have a problem. however, right now, the Fed seems to agree more with this writer than with some of the wild scenarios posted in this thread;

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/business/stories.nsf/moneymarkets/story/CAAE3CD20407E511862572A600082833?OpenDocument

central bank policymakers apparently see no reason to lower the benchmark rate when mortgage rates are already falling and businesses still find cheap credit abundantly available.
 
Damn,

My hair wasn't grey when I first saw this thread.

TC
 
Something to chew on:

http://usmarket.seekingalpha.com/article/30285

Given the extraordinary gains in home prices in recent years, the fact that inventories, vacancies, and delinquencies are at or near record levels, purchase-contract cancellation rates are still outpacing sales at many new home builders, housing completions have only just begun to level off, and a large segment of prospective home buyers -- those categorized as subprime -- will find it difficult, if not impossible to obtain mortgage financing under new, more restrictive guidelines and difficult market conditions, then the view that "average home prices will remain about level...over the next five years" seems totally unrealistic. But that's not all.
The projections include only foreclosures expected to result from jumps in interest rates that occur when loans "reset" from their initial interest rate to a higher one, usually after two to five years. They don't take into account foreclosures that will occur for such reasons as job losses, deaths, divorces, illness or fraud.
With myriad indicators pointing to an imminent recession, and a sharp increase in newsflow suggesting that the housing bubble has been accompanied by a substantial measure of fraud, then these so-called exceptions may, in fact, boost the overall level of foreclosures well beyond the supposedly worst case scenario.

Then there's that little matter of so many having HELOC's to pick up the difference between what they earn and what they spend.....:shrug:
 
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