How Little Product Can we Provide and still be Professionals

[Terrel L. Shields]

I think I agree with what you are saying. My spin is that we are getting the cart before the horse. We need to be encouraging Colleges to offer appraisal courses, with business, construction and economic classes integrated into the program. Once there are at least one in every region, then we could think about requiring a degree in that area - at least to achieve the top plateau of the profession. I see no reason why the Licensed, Cert. Res., and Cert. Gen. have to have the same college requirement. Requiring an appraisal degree or Masters for CG, any degree for CR, and no requirement for SL seem sensible enough for me.

Ter

 

[Don Clark]

8)

To one and all:

Look at the proposed courses for Licensed, Certified Residential & Certified General on the AQB exposure draft. I would believe, from reciewing hundreds of appraisals, that it is basic math that is needed, not advanced mathematics. This list by the AQB is for those who choose to take equivilant courses in lieu of a degree. However, that is a small complaint. Also, the start date of any of this is years away. However, if you want to move from one level to another, you had better do it soon.
:wink:

Don

 

[Bob Ipock]

Don,

Now that most software packages do the math calculations, it becomes a question of incorrect signs used (+ and -). How the heck do you teach that?

I still am not sure how sending an appraiser to an ethics class will make him more ethical, but that seems to be the course of action.

It does not seem to be difficult for most people to pass the basic classes (R-1, R-23 and R-3 here in NC). It does not seem too difficult for most students to pass the state exam. The biggest problens I see in reviews and in complaints filed with the board are more about honesty, ethics, knowledge of the market and appraisers taking assignments that are too complex for theire knowledge and/or ability.

It seems that some thinks can be taught and some things can be learned but some character traits seem to be missing...and I am not sure how those can be taught or learned.

Hope all is well in VA.


Bob

 

[Don Clark]

8)

Bob:

We have to have appraisers prepared to do the best, not the least. I realize that software does all the cute things we should be doing ourselves but there are many times when basic math is a necessary ingredient in doing an appraisal, and not all appraisals, even residential, are form reports. So, I believe basic math skills are needed much more so than algebra or some other level of math above basic math. As far as ethics are concerned it can be taught, it can be required, I am not sure, depending on the person, if it can be learned. However, even the most unethical can be required to comply with an ethical framework whether they believe in it or not, or want to comply with it or not. Those who do comply will stay with us, those who don't can be encouraged to move on.

Things are great in Virginia. However, after sitting through the USPAP Instructor Certification course and taking the test I am not sure I know what I know any more. Guess I will find out in about 30 days.

Don

 

[Bob Ipock]

Don,

Somewhere along the line here the topic was "Get Right, or Get out!"

That just about says it best and says it all.

We should all be learning waht we need to know, be it math, ethics, USPAP
....whatever. If we are unable to be competent and ethical...then we should get out and find a new line of work.

See ya,

Bob