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https://www.forbes.com/sites/billconerly/2018/04/26/what-will-cause-the-next-recession/#7e4b2d057da4

I agree with this assessment. The most likely cause of a recession is miscalculation by the FED in raising rates too fast. It’s not a housing bubble. It’s not fiscal policy. It’s monetary policy.

Would that be raising interest rates? That's what the FED does after goosing the economy. The cost of zero percent interest and QE is that pension plans are insolvent and that is the next bailout.
 
Don't let your thoughts and ideas be shaped by mainstream media. You want to read or listen to something then go listen to some interviews of people like Ken Fisher. Go read some of his books. Learn from legends and not stupid mainstream media articles.
 
Actually, I have had 71 years of living experience in up market and down markets as well as investing. I have had formal education that involves economics. I know the functions of the federal reserve. You seem to think Ken Fisher is the man to listen to. In 2015, Fisher released his most recent book, entitled Beat the Crowd: How You Can Out-Invest the Herd by Thinking Differently.[25] In the book, he discusses the true definition of contrarianism.

You are espousing contrarianism. That's not knowledge, that's a philosophy that does not involve the federal reserve actions or how debt functions on the economy.
 
I read that book. Did you read it? If you did then you would understand that most people misunderstand what contrarianism is. It is pretty obvious that you don't understand what contrarianism is. As a person that is involved in the markets I observe the "time tested market truths" that he is always talking about all the time. The guy is pretty brilliant.
 
71 years of living experience in up and down markets and investing did you participate in 1000% run in the stock market of the 80's and 90s? Or the 1,000% run of the 40's and 50's? Since you only talk about crashes you probably only participated in the dot com crash and financial crisis crash. Now you are probably missing out on another monster run in the stock market fearing another crash like dot com and financial crisis.
 
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Irrational Exuberance is a March 2000 book written by Nobel Prize-winning Yale University professor Robert J. Shiller, did you read it?

In his 2006 book Irrational Exuberance, Robert Shiller argues that high stock market valuations in 2000 and 2005 were unjustified. The text opens with Shiller examining the historic valuations (based on PE ratios) in the two periods, which were well above those seen at prior peaks in 1901, 1929 and 1966. This book, however, is not about valuation. Instead, the author identifies a series of factors that brought about these speculative excesses, focusing on 12 factors that facilitated big market moves from 1995 to 2000 and from 2002 to 2005. Shiller then goes on to explain the mechanisms that amplified these factors. The book also covers cultural and psychological influences that further contribute to irrational decision-making when it comes to making investments. Shiller, after explaining the human instinct to rationalize this irrational behavior, then offers some solutions to prevent future speculative bubbles.

Did you read it?

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Irrational Exuberance Revised and Expanded Third Edition 2016

In this revised, updated, and expanded edition of his New York Times bestseller, Nobel Prize–winning economist Robert Shiller, who warned of both the tech and housing bubbles, cautions that signs of irrational exuberance among investors have only increased since the 2008–9 financial crisis. With high stock and bond prices and the rising cost of housing, the post-subprime boom may well turn out to be another illustration of Shiller's influential argument that psychologically driven volatility is an inherent characteristic of all asset markets. In other words, Irrational Exuberance is as relevant as ever. Previous editions covered the stock and housing markets—and famously predicted their crashes. This edition expands its coverage to include the bond market, so that the book now addresses all of the major investment markets. It also includes updated data throughout, as well as Shiller's 2013 Nobel Prize lecture, which places the book in broader context. In addition to diagnosing the causes of asset bubbles, Irrational Exuberance recommends urgent policy changes to lessen their likelihood and severity—and suggests ways that individuals can decrease their risk before the next bubble bursts. No one whose future depends on a retirement account, a house, or other investments can afford not to read this book.

If your guy Ken Fisher predicted and explained market crashes, then he should have a Nobel Prize too.
 
How many economists do you know that are billionaires? Zero. Economics makes no difference in markets because markets are usually ahead of fundamentals. The market is a psychological game.
 
71 years of living experience in up and down markets and investing did you participate in 1000% run in the stock market of the 80's and 90s? Or the 1,000% run of the 50's and 60's? Since you only talk about crashes you probably only participated in the dot com crash and financial crisis crash. Now you are probably missing out on another monster run in the stock market fearing another crash like dot com and financial crisis.

One can measure the success of saving investing by the ability to retire on those successes. I have. And you?
 
"The problem is that Fed officials have mostly pointed to the benefits of unconventional policy while downplaying the costs. Some of those costs, oddly, are also the claimed benefits — namely, increased risk taking and surging asset prices. The role of a central bank should not be to promote risk taking or to inflate asset prices."

"By holding rates near zero for almost seven years, the Fed has driven up the price of risky assets, increased leverage and created a pseudo wealth effect, which will be reversed once rates return to normal. Asset prices cannot continuously outpace real economic growth. When the bubbles in the stock and bond markets burst, as interest rates begin to rise toward their natural, long-term equilibrium, the Fed’s unconventional wisdom will be called into question."

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/pitfalls-federal-reserves-zero-interest-rate-policy

ZIRP
 
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