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HUD Files Against Appraiser & Rocket Mortgage

They're alleging that the appraiser did differently in that same neighborhood for white owners. In terms of looking for conduct and consistency that's our matched pair right there. The neighborhood is the same but the property owners are different (even if the other properties were SFRs rather than 2-unit properties). Even if someone is going to be wrong about how the location plays out, if they're consistently wrong about it that at least demonstrates equal treatment. As opposed to different treatment.

"Location" is just about the easiest adjustment factor to develop. Not just by direct comparison in the sale prices from these different areas but also when the properties have rents and your assignment includes a rental survey. If the rents in Neighborhood#1 are more similar to the local rents than those in Neighborhood#2 thats a simple observation to make and a valid reason for considering the one location to be more similar than the other.

This complaint is different from the others because it looks like they didn't just get a 2nd or 3rd "whitewashed" appraisal after complaining about the 1st one, and then just jump straight to the conclusion that the only possible reason was racial bias, exclusive of any other factor involving competency. They apparently looked at a bunch of other appraisals and how those appraisers treated comp selection and location, and they apparently looked at this appraiser's prior conduct in that same neighborhood. If what they're alleging about that different treatment is factually accurate then this appraiser did themself in by their own hand.
Its definately different and there is the appearance that they may have a case. Can't say for certain obviously without seeing the appraisal and others in question. Getting other appraisers to review the appraisal(s) would bolster the case. Maybe they already have.
 
Its definately different and there is the appearance that they may have a case. Can't say for certain obviously without seeing the appraisal and others in question. Getting other appraisers to review the appraisal(s) would bolster the case. Maybe they already have.
From the way HUD articulated the charges. It would appear that think they have evidence to back up their charges.
 
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i dont see HUD whining about $5,000 sales of two families in east cleveland...i guess their generational wealth does not count:rof::rof::rof:

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We have always known that the answer to "how many examples are there of people getting treated differently?" is some number in excess of zero. It should therefore come as no surprise to anyone that some of the complaints being sent to HUD will end with formal charges, even if that's not always the outcome. I think I heard or read somewhere they have 200 complaints in hand but most haven't yet been resolved. If 200 is somewheres near being the actual number of cases - and if some of those cases are unfounded, then the number of actual misconduct will not turn out to be a large number when considering how many appraisers are out there.

Large number of not, any number in excess of zero should be cause for concern amongst appraisers,
 
If there were any indications in the above that the appraiser is getting screwed I'd be the first in line to say so. As I have done in other past examples when I thought that might be the case. I did express me opinion on the if/then basis, subject to the factual accuracy of what HUD said they did and what they found in their process.

If my assumption of the accuracy of the facts proves to be incorrect it would have an effect on my opinions.
I don't even have enough competency for that area to have an opinion. I am sure HUD already appraisers on their side that know the area very well.
 
They're alleging that the appraiser did differently in that same neighborhood for white owners. In terms of looking for conduct and consistency that's our matched pair right there. The neighborhood is the same but the property owners are different (even if the other properties were SFRs rather than 2-unit properties). Even if someone is going to be wrong about how the location plays out, if they're consistently wrong about it that at least demonstrates equal treatment. As opposed to different treatment.

"Location" is just about the easiest adjustment factor to develop. Not just by direct comparison in the sale prices from these different areas but also when the properties have rents and your assignment includes a rental survey. If the rents in Neighborhood#1 are more similar to the local rents than those in Neighborhood#2 thats a simple observation to make and a valid reason for considering the one location to be more similar than the other.

This complaint is different from the others because it looks like they didn't just get a 2nd or 3rd "whitewashed" appraisal after complaining about the 1st one, and then just jump straight to the conclusion that the only possible reason was racial bias, exclusive of any other factor involving competency. They apparently looked at a bunch of other appraisals and how those appraisers treated comp selection and location, and they apparently looked at this appraiser's prior conduct in that same neighborhood. If what they're alleging about that different treatment is factually accurate then this appraiser did themself in by their own hand.
But we don’t know what type of other appraisal products were completed by this appraiser that were nearby. Probably one-unit properties as that’s what most resi appraisers do that may or may not march to a different drummer. Much like an office building may have the best comps to the east but when you appraise the neighboring apartment building the best comps may be to the west. Different property, maybe different neighborhood analysis.
 
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We have always known that the answer to "how many examples are there of people getting treated differently?" is some number in excess of zero. It should therefore come as no surprise to anyone that some of the complaints being sent to HUD will end with formal charges, even if that's not always the outcome. I think I heard or read somewhere they have 200 complaints in hand but most haven't yet been resolved. If 200 is somewheres near being the actual number of cases - and if some of those cases are unfounded, then the number of actual misconduct will not turn out to be a large number when considering how many appraisers are out there.

Large number of not, any number in excess of zero should be cause for concern amongst appraisers,
The powers that be are taking an insignificant tiny problem and playing it like it is a major one. This is harmful to appraisal as a profession and self-serving for those benefitting from that..

There can never be a ZERO problem in any profession - even USPAP says perfection is not possible. A profession is made up of people, and any profession, including the loftiest, such as physicians, will have a certain small % of rogues or incompetents.


This case, at least from what we know, seems like a legit one - and it shows the mechanisms are in place to make it whole and punish this one appraiser. Although the supposed harm the appraiser did this owner in a refinance is minor - other than hurting their feelings as an aggrieved person, the owners did not suffer any real harm, the way a patient whose doctor fails them wrt death or disease or other failures or corruptions in a profession that really harms people financially. At most, the owner got less of a refinance amount than they wanted, and they easily could have gone to another lender. It sounds like they refinanced tons of times before, and who knows if those past renounce values were too high or not.

That said, of course, it is teh right thing to root out and expose those few appraisers who use bias. But don't pretend it is a huge problem across the professions when there is no evidence of that.

The point is more that these cases are isolated and of little real harm, and some of these cases, like the high-profile one in California, might not be real cases , more like something that got settled to avoid bad PR. We can not know if the second appraisal was inflated, nobody saw it compared with the first. Yet Fannie and Freddie liked it and accepted it as legit because it fed their agenda of disenfranchising appraisers and replacing appraisals with alt valuations that they or their profiteer cronies control. The WAIVER is a perfect example.

AVMs use similar data and methods as appraisals do , and there are probably more loans made now based on AVMs, What is the scrutiny on them ?
 
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