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Hybrid Companies and USPAP

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ilikethings

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Certified Residential Appraiser
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Hi!

So I recently started doing work for one of these hybrid companies, mostly out of curiosity since they’ve achieved some significant VC funding.

What I’m seeing now would have been honestly considered beyond the pale 5 years ago, but no one seems to care about the rules anymore, especially with this organization.

1. I was offered a void non-compete/non-solicit which is a Class II misdemeanor in the State of Colorado as of 8/10/2022. Haven’t decided what to do yet as there is zero settled case-law. It was also insanely restrictive, lasting almost two years after termination of the agreement. This was all thrown out already but I have not signed any new documents they’ve provided.

2. Several of the Appraisers that work for this company are licensed in my State but don’t even live within the State. The company sends out “trainees” off of the street that they typically never even communicate with directly, the turnover I’ve seen even after just a month is staggering, and inspection quality is hilariously bad. Honestly I have no idea how these trainees would even report these hours to the State if they ever even got to the required certification hours, which brings me to my next point.

3. There appears to be zero focus or pathway of developing these “trainees” as legitimate appraisers. They are hired and strictly perform inspections, that’s it. They have zero involvement with the Appraiser, zero legitimate apprenticeship, and zero accountability (Colorado does NOT license trainees).

4. Appraisers are hired at a pittance of a salary, yet expected to sign at least 20 appraisals a month to just maintain that salary. This amounts to about 1/4 or less of the total report fee paid to the appraiser, as distributed by the company who takes the Appraiser’s check. They also require you to provide ALL of your client log-ins and relationships - if you refuse, they just make new profiles for you. I have been vehement in keeping them from doing this to me.

5. It’s all about one particular wholesale client, who doesn’t care about MLS photos or “trainees” inspecting. A late report to this particular wholesale client is the end of the world, a revision sitting more than 12 hours is world-ending as well. “Managers” will descend upon you from out of the woodwork at the slightest hint of this Client’s displeasure. They seem to have calls with the CEO basically every day and the company send this client cookies and flowers every week. The staff here also has Fannie managers on speed-dial for “clarification”.

None of this really sits right with me at all, so I’m looking for any guidance anyone can offer as to either make this process accountable to USPAP, or any other avenue to maintain the integrity of our trade. I mean… the report is automatically misleading if you don’t even live in the State, right? I mean the certification states that you viewed the comparables from the street, and I doubt they’re flying over here to do so for every order…

(I will not be disclosing the name of the company or clients for basic CYA, so please don’t ask. You’re perfectly allowed to guess of course, but I won’t be confirming. )
 
Not really sure what you mean by hybrid company.
 
I estimate there is a massive volume going through this and similar wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am operations. But, as you say, no one with any authority seems to care. FNMA on speed dial suggests the GSEs are facilitating these non-compliant operations. Apparently, they are not concerned about the certifications that they insisted be included in the form actually being truthful. Just there, with a signature!
 
What is the scope of work for the assignment you are performing, which form are you using, and what do the disclosures therein say about what YOU are doing?
 
What is the scope of work for the assignment you are performing, which form are you using, and what do the disclosures therein say about what YOU are doing?
I was thinking along similar lines. Are these 1004 hybrid reports. Or are they proprietary reports. Different set of rules can apply to the proprietary reports. Intended use, intended user.
 
I was thinking along similar lines. Are these 1004 hybrid reports. Or are they proprietary reports. Different set of rules can apply to the proprietary reports. Intended use, intended user.
These are standard Fannie forms - 1004/1007/1073/1025 etc. There is seriously nothing proprietary here. These are all ordered and completed for GSE’s, much of it is lender direct from the biggest lenders. I’m only doing FHA work by request because I’m involved in the entire process so they won’t just bid on the report send out a “trainee” and expect me to complete it without my involvement like most of their appraisers.
 
What is the scope of work for the assignment you are performing, which form are you using, and what do the disclosures therein say about what YOU are doing?
Forgot to tag you, see above reply to Dublin. I’m entirely above board, but it took a lot of arguing to do things how I was trained.
 
These are standard Fannie forms - 1004/1007/1073/1025 etc. There is seriously nothing proprietary here. These are all ordered and completed for GSE’s, much of it is lender direct from the biggest lenders. I’m only doing FHA work by request because I’m involved in the entire process so they won’t just bid on the report send out a “trainee” and expect me to complete it without my involvement like most of their appraisers.
I'm asking because you did initially refer to it being a Hybrid Company

Fannie has a 1004 (Hybrid) form. If the company is doing these then that may explain how they're sending out inspectors for the inspections and using remote appraisers for the appraisal itself. That would be legit.


On the other hand if they're doing nothing but conventional assignments and sending runners out to do those inspections and the appraisers are signing for personal inspections they never completed then that scam has a long and shameful tradition in our business. Personally, I would never work for such a company even if my own work was 100% pristine.

We are known by the company we keep. IMO
 
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