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Hypothetical Conditions and FIRREA

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its prospective market value upon completion
Interestingly most construction loans are not "prospective" in reality. They are as if built on the day of the appraisal already and hence are a hypothetical. However, if prospective and assumes that the building is built as of Dec. 10, 2022, then it would not be contrary to what (will) exist then, so is an extraordinary assumption.
 
From the IAEG:

“As Is” Market Value – The estimate of the market value of real property in its current physical condition, use
, and zoning as of the appraisal’s effective date.

So it sounds for a regulated lender you will need to develop more than one value opinion if they want it valued without the flex building considered.
 
the client is a moron, what does what an owner plans to do in the future to their property, have to do with current as is value?
He has already accepted a potentially untenable assignment condition. He can't just ignore his client's requirement to treat the building as though it has no value without a hypothetical if it does have value, which he understandably wants to avoid.
 
From the IAEG:

“As Is” Market Value – The estimate of the market value of real property in its current physical condition, use
, and zoning as of the appraisal’s effective date.

So it sounds for a regulated lender you will need to develop more than one value opinion if they want it valued without the flex building considered.
Ah, exactly right. I know this is wandering close to off-topic but have been in this situation and there were times I just wanted out. Since the assignment condition might not be acceptable now that he's discovered it isn't a valid one without a change in scope, could he retrospectively decline the assignment if the client won't budge? And, is he due a fee? I wouldn't want to create bad blood with a steady client, but in this case they have misrepresented the assignment.
 
Ah, exactly right. I know this is wandering close to off-topic but have been in this situation and there were times I just wanted out. Since the assignment condition might not be acceptable now that he's discovered it isn't a valid one without a change in scope, could he retrospectively decline the assignment if the client won't budge? And, is he due a fee? I wouldn't want to create bad blood with a steady client, but in this case they have misrepresented the assignment.
I’d guess the misrepresentation wasn’t intentional - the borrower or loan officer probably told the appraisal “orderer” that the building had no value, so all the preliminary underwriting was done with that assumption. When the appraiser got out there, he saw something different. The scope needs to change - whether there’s an additional fee is a business decision. Providing an additional value may be a simple as adding a couple of paragraphs or it could be a lot more involved.
 
Ah, exactly right. I know this is wandering close to off-topic but have been in this situation and there were times I just wanted out. Since the assignment condition might not be acceptable now that he's discovered it isn't a valid one without a change in scope, could he retrospectively decline the assignment if the client won't budge? And, is he due a fee? I wouldn't want to create bad blood with a steady client, but in this case they have misrepresented the assignment.
It is truly amazing at the number of lenders that don’t have a good grasp of , or want to ignore, the IAEG. I would think some dialogue with the client and quote their regulations to them, assuming they are a regulated lender, they would understand what must be done for compliance.
It looks like a change in the SOW is necessary. If the client will not amend such and the Appraisers deems the SOW unacceptable they must withdraw from the assignment.
The fee question would be dependent upon billable hours involved and client relationship.
 
He can't just ignore his client's requirement to treat the building as though it has no value without a hypothetical if it does have value, which he understandably wants to avoid.
Again the Q & A is clear. The appraiser can value a portion of the property and other than acknowledging the existence and impact of that space, not include it in the value. I get this all the time in rural areas where the lender wants the land value but doesn't want the value of a manufactured home that is there. And the reason is that they don't have a loan on the MH, it is often financed via the seller of the Manf. home. They have the note on the land only and want the value of the land only. Again, it is not a hypothetical. It is not contrary to what is there.
 
We dont even know if the lender is under Federal regulations many commercial loans are made by non-regulated institutions. So thats the real question for the OP as FRT may not even come into play and he can do it however he believes will create the most credible report. As environmental issues were mentioned thats the BIG $$$ Unknown without having at minimum a Phase-1 ot 2 report. As far as the lender they are taking a more conservative approach and making a smaller loan so its a win -win for them.
 
Hasn't reached the end of it's economic life and I don't anticipate that the HBU would be to tear it down... it's just what he plans to do. Market probably wouldn't see it and think "more mini-storage could go there", property owner just wants to expand his current facility.
How confident in your HBU are you? If the owner thinks that mini-storage will generate more revenue and will create consistency of use, then I would be careful simply dismissing the idea. The building could be in great physical condition, but the opportunity cost may result in it having outlived its economic life.
 
Again the Q & A is clear. The appraiser can value a portion of the property and other than acknowledging the existence and impact of that space, not include it in the value. I get this all the time in rural areas where the lender wants the land value but doesn't want the value of a manufactured home that is there. And the reason is that they don't have a loan on the MH, it is often financed via the seller of the Manf. home. They have the note on the land only and want the value of the land only. Again, it is not a hypothetical. It is not contrary to what is there.
I agree with what you are saying in your scenario, but the comparison is not correct. You cannot simply ignore a permanently affixed industrial building located on the subject site without analyzing the highest and best use. If it has outlived its useful life, you handle it like Michael mentioned. If not, then the value would be subject to a hypothetical condition.

Given the limited information, it sounds like the building has outlived its economic life.
 
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