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I keep getting push back on this stipulation from a reviewer

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You're about to get your wish.

I'm sure you listened to Phil's last podcast. The appraiser culling later this year he's referring to is FNMA/Freddie are ready to roll out their AI in the sky photo recognition tech. Word is, based on the AI's assessment of Q and C ratings, automatic complaint letters will be sent if the appraiser is "too far off." And it gets better, I've read several posts from people who are helping work out the bugs, 2025 looks like the year the government owned enterprises will give their blessing to borrower inspections via apps similar to the ones used during Covid. All of this just in time for the new "forms" roll out. The future is almost here.

It's unlikely that the GSEs' preference for high-volume, low-cost form-fillers will change. Despite the lip service about quality, their actions suggest a priority for fast, cheap, and incompetent. The selection of six AMCs by Fannie Mae for their “modernization” initiative exemplifies this trend. I got another assignment over the weekend from Clear Capital for a same-day appraisal of a four-million-dollar property. Does anyone think this form is going to “support” their adjustments?
 
It's unlikely that the GSEs' preference for high-volume, low-cost form-fillers will change. Despite the lip service about quality, their actions suggest a priority for fast, cheap, and incompetent.

Fair point, and one I've made many times over the years. Regardless of their explanations and their reasoning the clients and users demonstrate what they will and won't "accept" by what they do. And then when they do clamp down on enforcement the appraiser gets "shocked".

Meanwhile, it looks like Elvis has left the building.
 
It's unlikely that the GSEs' preference for high-volume, low-cost form-fillers will change. Despite the lip service about quality, their actions suggest a priority for fast, cheap, and incompetent.

Fair point, and one I've made many times over the years. Regardless of their explanations and their reasoning the clients and users demonstrate what they will and won't "accept" by what they do. And then when they do clamp down on enforcement the appraiser gets "shocked".

Meanwhile, it looks like Elvis has left the building.
To sum up, they clamp down against the very things their own actions have created. (incompetence, value pushing, etc)

It is one thing, however, to clamp down on any real problems, another to clamp down on a false narrative of a problem they claim exists but does not, unless one can accept that a sliver of a percent of an "appraisal gap " in the purchase price in a few census tracts comprises a bias problem - especially since teh one high profile court case with the two appraisals values was never reviewed by these entities was the second much higher appraisal the problem.
 
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Indeed, the appraisal industry must take a proactive stance. Professionals within the field should set the standards and lead the way in best practices, rather than reacting to what “users” want. Appraisers need to establish and maintain their authority in determining what is acceptable, ensuring their expertise is both respected and utilized effectively. This approach not only reinforces their professionalism but also upholds the integrity of the industry. But as always, the industry is caught with its pants down. Again I've been proven right.
 
Indeed, the appraisal industry must take a proactive stance. Professionals within the field should set the standards and lead the way in best practices, rather than reacting to what “users” want. Appraisers need to establish and maintain their authority in determining what is acceptable, ensuring their expertise is both respected and utilized effectively. This approach not only reinforces their professionalism but also upholds the integrity of the industry. But as always, the industry is caught with its pants down. Again I've been proven right.
"The industry" doesn't dictate terms to the users, nor do they discipline their own membership. If you want more enforcement on appraisers there's only one type of entity that does that and I strongly doubt you want to see them ramp up enforcement on appraisers.
 
But only when they can maintain market share while clamping.
They have already done that;- below is the next round of clamping ( in my email today). My objection is that they ignore the fact that 90% of the ROV from a client is the lender or parties pushing for a higher value ( and the assumption that the appraisal is deficient) Then they double down with the assumption that bias is an actual problem to be reported when no evidence of the kind exists. All this mandatory reporting is from their side; where is the appraisal process to report client misconduct with the ROV process? ( like the old, never enacted line, buried in the Bermuda Triangle )? Meanwhile, one can steal billions and get a slap on the wrist, but appraisers must get reported for a perceived error to punish them for l...what? Doing their job for sub par fees? Why would anyone in their right mind enter the field at this point? Those already appraising for res lending end will likely be gone in a few years or sooner if one of us gets reported - (for some infraction or other, even USPAP states perfection does not exist yet they will report fro the smallest of anything they want it seems not just in the appraisal but in the ROV )


RECONSIDERATION OF VALUE (ROV) PROCESS
Effective August 29, 2024

Freddie Mac, in collaboration with Fannie Mae and HUD, is implementing requirements related to reconsideration of value (ROV) that promote consistency when a perceived appraisal issue and/or appraisal deficiency exists. These requirements also recognize the importance of the Borrower having the knowledge and opportunity to request an ROV. The Seller must have policies and procedures in place addressing Seller or Borrower requests for ROVs, and the policies and procedures must include, but are not limited to, the following:

  • A review and resolution procedure for an ROV request, including steps for the Borrower(s) to appeal an appraisal report’s findings when the Borrower(s) believes the appraisal report or the appraiser’s opinion of value is unsupported, may be deficient due to an unacceptable appraisal practice or reflects discriminatory practices
  • A process for disclosure of the ROV process to the Borrower(s) and instructions for initiating an ROV request
  • A standardized format for communicating the rationale, requirements and supporting documentation to the appraiser
  • Instructions for the appraiser to deliver a revised appraisal report that includes specific commentary explaining their conclusions to the ROV request
  • Turn-time expectations for communicating results of the ROV to the Borrower
  • A requirement for the retention of all documentation and communications related to the initiation and outcome of the ROV in the Mortgage file
This update also requires the Seller to:

  • Forward the appraisal report, along with a summary of findings, to the appropriate appraisal licensing agency or regulatory board if material deficiencies are identified in the appraisal report that are not corrected or addressed by the appraiser upon request or if there is evidence of unacceptable appraisal practices. In addition, if there are suspected overt violations of antidiscrimination laws, the Seller must report them to the proper local, State or federal agency.
  • Ensure valuation and related staff, inclusive of third parties, are trained to identify prohibited discriminatory practices and appraisal deficiencies through the valuation review and ROV processes. The Seller must have a process for remediating these deficiencies.
Freddie Mac is evaluating methods for future tracking of Mortgages originated where an ROV was obtained. More information will be provided as it becomes available.
 
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They have already done that;- below is the next round of clamping ( in my email today). My objection is that they ignore the fact that 90% of the ROV from a client is the lender or parties pushing for a higher value ( and the assumption that the appraisal is deficient) Then they double down with the assumption that bias is an actual problem to be reported when no evidence of the kind exists. All this mandatory reporting is from their side; where is the appraisal process to report client misconduct with the ROV process? ( like the old, never enacted line, buried in the Bermuda Triangle )? Meanwhile, one can steal billions and get a slap on the wrist, but appraisers must get reported for a perceived error to punish them for l...what? Doing their job for sub par fees? Why would anyone in their right mind enter the field at this point? Those already appraising for res lending end will likely be gone in a few years or sooner if one of us gets reported - (for some infraction or other, even USPAP states perfection does not exist yet they will report fro the smallest of anything they want it seems not just in the appraisal but in the ROV )


RECONSIDERATION OF VALUE (ROV) PROCESS
Effective August 29, 2024

Freddie Mac, in collaboration with Fannie Mae and HUD, is implementing requirements related to reconsideration of value (ROV) that promote consistency when a perceived appraisal issue and/or appraisal deficiency exists. These requirements also recognize the importance of the Borrower having the knowledge and opportunity to request an ROV. The Seller must have policies and procedures in place addressing Seller or Borrower requests for ROVs, and the policies and procedures must include, but are not limited to, the following:

  • A review and resolution procedure for an ROV request, including steps for the Borrower(s) to appeal an appraisal report’s findings when the Borrower(s) believes the appraisal report or the appraiser’s opinion of value is unsupported, may be deficient due to an unacceptable appraisal practice or reflects discriminatory practices
  • A process for disclosure of the ROV process to the Borrower(s) and instructions for initiating an ROV request
  • A standardized format for communicating the rationale, requirements and supporting documentation to the appraiser
  • Instructions for the appraiser to deliver a revised appraisal report that includes specific commentary explaining their conclusions to the ROV request
  • Turn-time expectations for communicating results of the ROV to the Borrower
  • A requirement for the retention of all documentation and communications related to the initiation and outcome of the ROV in the Mortgage file
This update also requires the Seller to:

  • Forward the appraisal report, along with a summary of findings, to the appropriate appraisal licensing agency or regulatory board if material deficiencies are identified in the appraisal report that are not corrected or addressed by the appraiser upon request or if there is evidence of unacceptable appraisal practices. In addition, if there are suspected overt violations of antidiscrimination laws, the Seller must report them to the proper local, State or federal agency.
  • Ensure valuation and related staff, inclusive of third parties, are trained to identify prohibited discriminatory practices and appraisal deficiencies through the valuation review and ROV processes. The Seller must have a process for remediating these deficiencies.
Freddie Mac is evaluating methods for future tracking of Mortgages originated where an ROV was obtained. More information will be provided as it becomes available.
I don't know why, but I always smell skunk when I read their pronouncements. And I have a poor sense of smell!
 
Freddie, Fannie, and HUD all just updated their ROV requirements today. Fannie now allows lenders to send appraisers up to 5 sales for reconsideration. Additionally, borrowers receive notification of their ability to ROV twice, including upon receipt of the appraisal. This is sure to result in more ROVs.
 
I'd support a 5-year licensing cycle with more stringent appraisal and workfile reviews by an independent panel of 100 appraisal experts, paid for by a small fee from the stakeholders. Any number of outcomes can be prescribed, such no complex assignments, no commercial for some CGs, supervision required, etc... No need for CE requirements, just gotta get over the hurdle every 5 years. Most of the incompetence would be weeded out immediately. If this is how it was done, I'd be fine with PAREA.
 
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