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I called a Realtor for the lock box code on an REO today and he said "while I have an appraiser on the phone, can I ask you what adjustments are for on this thing the bank calls a BPO".
Also got an "importnat message" from LSI today.

IMPORTANT NOTICE –PLEASE READ

Evaluations in Declining Markets – Comps and Listings

COMPS
Now, more than ever, it’s important to have an open mind about value when you start your comps search.

DON’T look at the subject and say to yourself, “That’s a $200,000 house,” and then find three $200,000 sales and send them in. If you are mistaken, you will never know it, because by searching on price you’ve ensured that all you’ll find is data that confirms your opinion. This is the wrong way to complete a BPO.

DO search for recent sales and current listings of properties that are nearby and similar in features to the subject, and let these sales and listings TELL you what the value is.

Use the following general criteria when you search for comps (always check place notes, too, for specifics):
• Radius distance—start with a ½-mile search and extend mileage only as the property and area dictate…closer is better!
• Date of sale—in every case, and particularly when values are decreasing or increasing, sales should be within six months of the inspection date
• Property type—should be the same as the subject
• Style—should be the same as the subject
• Age—should be similar to the subject…a new house does not typically compete with one that is 50 years old
• Size—ideally, comps will have GLAs that are within 20% of the subject’s
• Lot size—should be similar, but if the subject lot size is atypically large, it’s better to base the value on sales of nearby houses that are similar and add something for excess land value than to use sales of distant or dissimilar sales in an attempt to bracket lot size
• Bed and bath count—should be similar…for properties with fewer than 3 bedrooms and 2 baths this becomes particularly important.

Sounds like the banks would rather get there listing price from people that have NO Freaking clue than use appraisers. I just wonder what the ramifications will be of these values are so far off that no one knows what the value is???
 
I called a Realtor for the lock box code on an REO today and he said "while I have an appraiser on the phone, can I ask you what adjustments are for on this thing the bank calls a BPO".
Also got an "importnat message" from LSI today.

]Did you tell them they have to go to appraisers school to get the secret appraiser adjustment list?[COLOR]
IMPORTANT NOTICE –PLEASE READ

Evaluations in Declining Markets – Comps and Listings

COMPS
Now, more than ever, it’s important to have an open mind about value when you start your comps search.

DON’T look at the subject and say to yourself, “That’s a $200,000 house,” and then find three $200,000 sales and send them in. If you are mistaken, you will never know it, because by searching on price you’ve ensured that all you’ll find is data that confirms your opinion. This is the wrong way to complete a BPO.

DO search for recent sales and current listings of properties that are nearby and similar in features to the subject, and let these sales and listings TELL you what the value is.

Use the following general criteria when you search for comps (always check place notes, too, for specifics):
• Radius distance—start with a ½-mile search and extend mileage only as the property and area dictate…closer is better!
• Date of sale—in every case, and particularly when values are decreasing or increasing, sales should be within six months of the inspection date
• Property type—should be the same as the subject
• Style—should be the same as the subject
• Age—should be similar to the subject…a new house does not typically compete with one that is 50 years old
• Size—ideally, comps will have GLAs that are within 20% of the subject’s
• Lot size—should be similar, but if the subject lot size is atypically large, it’s better to base the value on sales of nearby houses that are similar and add something for excess land value than to use sales of distant or dissimilar sales in an attempt to bracket lot size
• Bed and bath count—should be similar…for properties with fewer than 3 bedrooms and 2 baths this becomes particularly important.

Sounds like the banks would rather get there listing price from people that have NO Freaking clue than use appraisers. I just wonder what the ramifications will be of these values are so far off that no one knows what the value is???



Until those that make these loans are held accountable nothing will change.
 
I got that email from LSI today too. Sounds like the Realtors don't know how to do BPOs and LSI is telling them how to do them like they told us appraisers how to take photos a few weeks ago.
 
They should get continuing ed. credit for reading the e-mail.
 
Would you all start sending these e-mails and other such AMC communciation to Pam.

We need all this stuff to make the case with the IRS that appraisers(and now Realtors) ARE employees of AMC's!

Seriously folks, we can take out an AMC with the help of the IRS! The american public needs tax money and if we dont get whats due then the gubermint will have to raise taxes on something else.

Help stamp out Tax Evasion by AMC's. Send your evidence to "Teflon Pam" Special AMC Investigative Division. :)
 
Do they seriously believe that realtards can learn from one email what it took us years of apprenticeship and experience to develop??? :shrug:

Jeeeeeeesus! :angry:
 
Do they seriously believe that realtards can learn from one email what it took us years of apprenticeship and experience to develop??? :shrug:

Jeeeeeeesus! :angry:
A real estate agent with several years experience should easily be able to do a good appraisal in their area of service. They spend far more time studying the market than a typical appraiser and are far more qualified than a typical recently licensed appraiser to give an opinion of value. I would take the opinion of a randomly chosen broker over a randomly chosen appraiser any day of the week. I much prefer someone who works in the market over a form monkey that traveled an hour just to reach the area. :new_all_coholic:
 
A real estate agent with several years experience should easily be able to do a good appraisal in their area of service. They spend far more time studying the market than a typical appraiser and are far more qualified than a typical recently licensed appraiser to give an opinion of value. I would take the opinion of a randomly chosen broker over a randomly chosen appraiser any day of the week. I much prefer someone who works in the market over a form monkey that traveled an hour just to reach the area. :new_all_coholic:

So negative...well you are half right. Frankly, we have had several discussions on this forum about doing what this letter says not to do, and we all agree. It is a bad idea to search by price.

But sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many appraisers did just that for so long. They searched comps in a way that their opinion was a self fulfilling prophecy. The problem is, whenever the banks try to correct an appraiser, we bristle and say--do YOU have a license? And silence the criticism....the Realtards aren't well trained enough to have a sense of superiority over the underwriter staff, so they play along.

Frankly, the U/w is giving good advice, and for once it isn't falling on deaf ears.

But, on the idea that most Realtards spend any time studying the markets is a load of crap. Maybe one per office, at best.

They call me every 15 minutes to find out exactly how much a fence adds to any house, and to find out my fireplace adjustment. Come on. And what is my snarky answer?

Go to appraisal school and you will find out for yourself!

Yeah, wonder why people want to circumvent appraisers? Hell, I am as much a part of the problem as anyone.

We need to get down off our high horses and start becoming aware of the precarious situation we are in.

We have customers, and while the customer isn't always right, he/she isn't always wrong, either.
 
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