Ingress/egress In The Sketch?

[Deleted member 130081]

It is not really rubbing me the wrong way, it just seems odd, almost like it is a little nudge to tell me to stop cutting contract prices. I can not help if the agents are listing the properties too dang high. I typically use between 5-9 closed sales, so I have enough support, I make the time adjustments if they are warranted..... And I still get this kind of weird request on one that did not "make contract".

Also, I just kind of wanted to get some input... to see if there is something/some guideline that I am missing. I just don't get it, I put more than enough photos in there... all sides of the home even on conventional reports, you can see where all doors are, so seems kind of silly.

Hmm...wouldn't it be an interesting piece of data to see how many bizarre requests like this were made in instances when the contract price was not met? I say this because I too have seen the same sort of bizarre requests in the same instances.

 

[andrew81]

no exterior doors. although i always do interior walls and include a blank space for the interior doorway

 

[Michigan CG]

So why are you slamming Glenn's review experience????
I was trained to include exterior doorways....
Before sketch programs I was taught to leave an open space on the exterior wall to signify the doorway...

Am I slamming Glenn's review experience? The answer to that is an obvious yes. I call BS.

It is wonderful that you were trained to include exterior doors in your sketches while that is not a USPAP requirement. It is sad that you weren't trained to write a USPAP compliant Highest and Best Use or proper reconciliation of your Sales Comparison Approach and final reconciliation. But at least your sketch is pretty.

 

[ucbruin]

Am I slamming Glenn's review experience? The answer to that is an obvious yes. I call BS.

It is wonderful that you were trained to include exterior doors in your sketches while that is not a USPAP requirement. It is sad that you weren't trained to write a USPAP compliant Highest and Best Use or proper reconciliation of your Sales Comparison Approach and final reconciliation. But at least your sketch is pretty.

This is the closest thing to a compliment I've ever received from you!!!!!!

 

[ucbruin]

Am I slamming Glenn's review experience? The answer to that is an obvious yes. I call BS.

It is wonderful that you were trained to include exterior doors in your sketches while that is not a USPAP requirement. It is sad that you weren't trained to write a USPAP compliant Highest and Best Use or proper reconciliation of your Sales Comparison Approach and final reconciliation. But at least your sketch is pretty.

Damn that 3 paragraph detailed zoning description....

 

[Joe Flacco]

Actually I have 5 brain cells left and maybe this is just typical and normal for California and I doubt any of us ever thought about it being an-issue that required an-engagement letter or something in a Handbook. So if the appraiser does not want to do ingress and egress doors then fine. We always trained our panel that even FHA minimum property requirements means ( minimal ) but there is nothing stopping us from producing a better report because even though we are trained to review the appraisal and not the appraiser after a while we know which appraisers are producing quality reports and those that are producing the bare minimum.

Where do you work?

 

[Joe Flacco]

If the client does not like reports with sketches that don't have doors then don't order again from the appraiser that does not put doors. Kicking the report back to revise the sketch with doors is pretty stupid.

 

[Joe Flacco]

Ok, I admit, I do not put any doors in my sketches, I never have and as long as it is not a requirement, I probably will not. I just received a request for them to be included in my sketch, and I have completed MANY reports for this client in the past with no such requests (Nor any other lender/client). I could find NOTHING from Fannie about this as a matter of fact here is all I found on the sketches:

"An exterior building sketch that indicates dimensions and calculations that demonstrate how the estimate for gross living area is derived. If the floor plan is atypical or functionally obsolete, thus limiting the market appeal for the property in comparison to competitive properties in the neighborhood, Fannie Mae requires a floor plan sketch that includes the interior walls. For a unit in a condo or co-op project, the sketch of the unit must indicate interior perimeter unit dimensions rather than exterior building dimensions (dimensions and estimates for gross living area shown in the condo documents are acceptable)."

https://www.fanniemae.com/content/guide/selling/b4/1.2/01.html

Am I missing something? Or is it ok to tell them to pound sand?

Who is the client / AMC?

 

[Joe Flacco]

The AMC reviewers are out of control. Idiots.

 

[Evincere]

Not difficult at all, I just do not like to touch a report more than once, and if they want it, it is easier for me to do up front. Also, everyone likes to complain about scope creep, so... I for one would just have to re-train myself to do it, I kind of got out of the habit of doing it (I forgot I used to do it a long time ago, along with all the cars in the garage and other stuff). I think it was more important prior to all the photos that are now in the reports and when the homes were not almost all in PUD's (at least in my area). Again, my main thing was to see if there is something that I am missing, and correct any error on my part (if there was one).

I wouldn’t consider adding doors request as a scope creep category.