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Is there an alternative to the local MLS?

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ockyappraiser

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Our local board requires appraisers to be Realtors to obtain MLS access. This involves CE, plus over $600 in dues each year. Our local/state/national MLS boards are also engaging. . .using our dues. . .in political advocacy with which I do not agree. Are there any alternatives out there to replace MLS for appraisal work?
 
Our local board requires appraisers to be Realtors to obtain MLS access. This involves CE, plus over $600 in dues each year. Our local/state/national MLS boards are also engaging. . .using our dues. . .in political advocacy with which I do not agree. Are there any alternatives out there to replace MLS for appraisal work?
Maybe in Kentucky but not in my market area. As far as Politcal advocacy NAR does more for appraisers than anyone else. The Problem is of you are missing sales or data that is only in MLS your kinda screwed. The CE is easy peasy and frankly you have to consider if $600 a year hurts that bad the appraisal business may no longer be a viable business. In Summary I would say keep your MLS service .
 
What state? KY? Are you in a disclosure or non-disclosure state? Some boards require you to be affiliates others to be actual appraiser-Realtors. You only have to take their idiot "ethics" class which basically teaches you to be ethical first to you boss, then your client, and everyone else is fair game - fellow agents, appraisers, etc.

There is a slow way.... in a disclosure state. Most have some sort of access to the assessor field cards and the deeds and mortgages - even if it means going to the courthouse (yes, when I started we went to the courthouse and searched paper records)... Much of that is on line. Anyway, with a search of the assessor sales you can get the addresses... or use Zillow to ID similar properties . Then by typing in the address you will be looking at most listings on Zillow, Trulia, Realtor.com, Redfin, or even LoopNet. Almost always one will give you the MLS # and the agents or brokers involved. You can confirm things with them. You can confirm the financing by the mortgage papers. How much, how long and if FNMA/Freddie the form will say so at the bottom. If FHA it will say so. If it has a check mark by the VA rider it is VA. Look for mortgages held by the seller (MLS rarely tells you about owner financing...calls it "cash") And all other mortgages are typically in house bank loans and do not say FNMA/Freddy, FHA, or has that rider clause. These are non-conforming conventional loans (aka "in house")...

So if business is so slow you cannot justify the cost of the MLS, then you have time to research the way I describe above. I work a very broad area in my specialty and if I joined every MLS that exists there, I'd be bankrupted. But if in a non-disclosure state. You have no choice. You have to join the MLS or else get no data.
 
Different here. Have to be a Realtor and pay dues. But no CE required.
 
Was $905 for National, State and Local Realtor dues here last year. Plus $60 per quarter for MLS access. The only CE you only have to do Code of Ethics every 2 years and it's free.
 
Its not a CE Course its a online Ethics and some have racial biases course now. A Drunk Monkey can pass them while napping :)
 
What are your peers doing? If they have access to and utilize the MLS, then you need it too.

If you are doing any work on the GSE forms, read Cert 12.

Regarding political activities, the PAC fees are voluntary for any association I’ve ever been a part of.

If you can no longer afford this expense, might be time to hang up the spurs.
 
The issue is not the dues or the ethics class. It is the hard push of the National Association of Realtors for an agenda neither I nor many appraisers in my area agree with.

For instance. . . the NAR took the position two years ago that anyone designated as a Realtor could have a complaint filed against them with the governing body over what they say on their private social media accounts, or in public setting such as churches. I know several pastors of small churches that hold real estate/realtor licenses that have been advised by their brokers that they could have complaints filed against them based on what they say in their pulpits based on NAR's position.
 
If a pastor is spewing hateful rhetoric about gays, blacks, and Jews, they probably cannot be entrusted to uphold the professional code of conduct that realtors must adhere to.

What are your pastor friends saying that’s going to get them in trouble anyhow?
 
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