Issues With Talcb

[George Hatch]

BTW and in case you missed it - I blame your supervisor for your problems. They were the responsible party for everything they signed their name to and they stole from you via screwing up your experience hours - that's inexcusable. It's one of the worst things an appraiser can do. We don't have a trainee problem, we have a supervisor problem.

 

[Red Flint]

Read through this carefully, you may find ideas that you can bounce off the people answering the phone at the state board.

22 TAC §153.15

May also be worth a counter visit to the board office. You will see that there are options for market analysis, H&BU etc that you may be able to do in some fashion without waiting for an appraisal assignment. You will also see that the board has 'sole discretion' for allowing experience, especially for your case due to your supervisor errors. Ask with a smile how you can cut down those 1,000 hours in ways acceptable to the board.

 

[Amy Perkins]

I completed all the appraisal institute courses for the MAI after they made it more difficult, it cost thousands. I had several years experience writing up eminent domain mass appraisals. All the work needed to be zoned commercial for me to log the hours. None of the hours I did for farms and ranches prior to my licensing were counted before I was a Right-of-Way Agent. I would have been better off if I stayed in government, but I moved to be with someone. After that didn't work out, I moved to be closer to family. I finally found another mentor who was awesome, he was a former ROW Agent. He died before I could get the hours. He had recommended me to another guy in which none of the hours were counted for commercial as it needs to be in a shorter time span and I didn't work for him long enough. Now I'm back on my own just doing residential and barely getting enough work to live in this pricey area. Corelogic just offered me a job at $17 and hour and I could have been a doctor by now with all the courses. Why you even want to start a career in this business is beyond me.

 

[Brett Shelander]

Thanks for all the help guys! I'm in contact with my attorney, and I'm gonna see if he can bounce some of these ideas off the board. The last time I tried to contact the board myself(numerous phone calls and emails), I received no response.

 

[Bob Ipock]

1) Do not tell a potential supervisor what you have said here. Don't say you are just looking for your hours so you can go out on your own!

2) You and your supervisor are BOTH 100% responsible for knowing state regulations regarding what is required to become an appraiser including how hours are awarded. NC does not require a trainee ever sign an appraisal as long as their name, trainee # and what tasks they have done in the appraisal.

3) Stop blaming other people. What ever problems you have here.....you need to own them

I have also taught prelicensing classes and USPAP for 15 years and can tell you that the lack of knowledge and understanding of USPAP, state appraisal law and board rules is unacceptable. Every appraiser needs to read disciplinary actions from multiple state appraisal boards to know and understand what can go wrong and why.

 

[Tejus]

As identified in earlier posts, you and your supervisor screwed up and did not follow the regulations. For all practical purposes, you are toast.

However, there may be another way. When dealing with a state regulatory board, the appraisal regulations such as USPAP are meaningless. The only importance is the state regulatory board's interpretation of the appraisal regulations. This is identified in the state board's rulings and findings from prior complaints and issues. It should be noted the state board's dismissal rulings may be just as important as their enforcement rulings. If the state board provides a ruling on an issue, then that establishes a precedent for similar issues in the future and the board must rule consistently on similar issues.

If the board rules inconsistently on similar issues, then you have a solid case for overturning the board's ruling in civil court. Inconsistent rulings also raise the issue of corruption and favoritism in the state board.

This is the same concept as case law in the legal system. All attorneys are familiar how to search and use case law to support their claims. In the appraisal field, other than myself I know of one other person (a well known attorney) who follows the state board's rulings and uses them (i.e. precedents) in hearings before the state board.

Has TALCB overlooked compliance with appraisal regulations in prior rulings ? Absolutely.

Would TALCB's prior rulings establish a precedence for your issues ? Tbd.

You need to understand some of the state regulatory agencies operate with little to no oversight and they do whatever they want until they are challenged. The Appraisal User Community members should be monitoring the state board's actions and planning their business activities to comply with the state board's interpretation of the appraisal regulations. I'm aware of 1 person that does this.

buene suerte.

 

[Steve Merrill]

As identified in earlier posts, you and your supervisor screwed up and did not follow the regulations. For all practical purposes, you are toast.

However, there may be another way. When dealing with a state regulatory board, the appraisal regulations such as USPAP are meaningless. The only importance is the state regulatory board's interpretation of the appraisal regulations. This is identified in the state board's rulings and findings from prior complaints and issues. It should be noted the state board's dismissal rulings may be just as important as their enforcement rulings. If the state board provides a ruling on an issue, then that establishes a precedent for similar issues in the future and the board must rule consistently on similar issues.

If the board rules inconsistently on similar issues, then you have a solid case for overturning the board's ruling in civil court. Inconsistent rulings also raise the issue of corruption and favoritism in the state board.

This is the same concept as case law in the legal system. All attorneys are familiar how to search and use case law to support their claims. In the appraisal field, other than myself I know of one other person (a well known attorney) who follows the state board's rulings and uses them (i.e. precedents) in hearings before the state board.

Has TALCB overlooked compliance with appraisal regulations in prior rulings ? Absolutely.

Would TALCB's prior rulings establish a precedence for your issues ? Tbd.

You need to understand some of the state regulatory agencies operate with little to no oversight and they do whatever they want until they are challenged. The Appraisal User Community members should be monitoring the state board's actions and planning their business activities to comply with the state board's interpretation of the appraisal regulations. I'm aware of 1 person that does this.

buene suerte.

Very astute post, Alan. Are you an attorney?

 

[Mr Rex]

Don Quixote Attorney at Law.

 

[Walter Kirk]

Does the Texas board require that your experience be with paid reports? If not you could simply complete 1000 hours worth of demo reports, check it out.