July 2008 ASC Q&a- Wink Wink Comp Comp

[Kevin Mc]

Do you mean something other than putting me in charge of EVERYTHING?

.....why not?

 

[SANDY]

In the hands of competent and ethical appraisers, no problem-o.

In the hands of those appraisers who occupy the sewer of our profession, problem.

Sorry first one is a problem unless all or even a majority of appraisers out there are ethical. Even though it sounds soooo nice a solution that is not attainable is still not a solution.

Which solution is more likely to be remotely achievable--- the just say no solution or the one I propose which is for TAF to take control of the part that they can control which happens to be us.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

I wonder if some of the opinions here would change if suddenly those 10,000 felons from Florida began reappearing as commercial LOs and demanded staged assignments based on their understanding of AO-19. Would the esoteric ones remain so unwavering in their views if it affected their livelihood directly?

I always find it amazing that Residential people throw up their mess in the face of Commercial appraisers. The simple fact of the matter is that commercial people dont put up with the bs that residential people do. It appears to me that Commercial appraisers manage their business in such a way as not to have to deal with the crap. Do comp checks happen in commercial work .. Im sure they do ... do we say bug off .. you bet.
The problem is that Residential people see no way out and Commercial people havent ever let it in to begin with. I would think instead of asking what would Commercial appraisers do .. youd ask yourself if Residential people did what Commercial people do would the problem go away.
Try it ... what your doing isnt working very well.

 

[The Warrior Monk]

Which solution is more likely to be remotely achievable--- the just say no solution or the one I propose which is for TAF to take control of the part that they can control which happens to be us.

Just say no works fine.

So does the ASB stating a correct interpretation of USPAP; i.e., the latest Q&A.

Problem solved.

Now if you want to go after crooked LOs/MBs/AMCs and other, you will have to look elsewhere.

 

[The Warrior Monk]

I always find it amazing that Residential people throw up their mess in the face of Commercial appraisers. The simple fact of the matter is that commercial people dont put up with the bs that residential people do. It appears to me that Commercial appraisers manage their business in such a way as not to have to deal with the crap. Do comp checks happen in commercial work .. Im sure they do ... do we say bug off .. you bet.
The problem is that Residential people see no way out and Commercial people havent ever let it in to begin with. I would think instead of asking what would Commercial appraisers do .. youd ask yourself if Residential people did what Commercial people do would the problem go away.
Try it ... what your doing isnt working very well.

I see it slightly different than residential versus commercial.

It simply has to do with diversification. Many residential appraisers don't have a diversified practice, and my GCs do. Of course some residential appraisers are very diversified, and some GCs aren't, though it is a much smaller percentage.

A big difference is that it is much easier for a GC to diversify than an appraiser holding a residential credential.

 

[Kevin Mc]

.. youd ask yourself if Residential people did what Commercial people do would the problem go away.Try it ... what your doing isnt working very well.

BINGO. I don't deal with it because I don't deal with folks who demand something from me other than a legitimate job. Do I lose work over it? most likely but then again I don't want to work with anyone who is less than professional. This includes AMCs.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

I see it slightly different than residential versus commercial.

It simply has to do with diversification. Many residential appraisers don't have a diversified practice, and my GCs do. Of course some residential appraisers are very diversified, and some GCs aren't, though it is a much smaller percentage.

A big difference is that it is much easier for a GC to diversify than an appraiser holding a residential credential.

Makes no difference how you or I see it David ... its whats always thrown up on this forum to commercial people. Misery loves company and several here cant wait for something bad to happen to the commercial side of the business. Sad if you ask me.

 

[Lee Lansford]

Sorry first one is a problem unless all or even a majority of appraisers out there are ethical. Even though it sounds soooo nice a solution that is not attainable is still not a solution.

Which solution is more likely to be remotely achievable--- the just say no solution or the one I propose which is for TAF to take control of the part that they can control which happens to be us.

Control "us"?

OK, I'll bite: What's your proposal? What should TAF do to "control us"/

 

[Pamela Crowley (Florida)]

Here you go folks:

http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=233573

Please DO read through this Broker Outpost thread to see exactly why what TAF came out with has added many more nails to the residential appraisers coffins.


"Just say NO!" ? m2: m2: m2: Will NEVER help anybody.

 

[Hamlet]

Sorry first one is a problem unless all or even a majority of appraisers out there are ethical. Even though it sounds soooo nice a solution that is not attainable is still not a solution.

Which solution is more likely to be remotely achievable--- the just say no solution or the one I propose which is for TAF to take control of the part that they can control which happens to be us.

What is an ethical appraiser to do......

Would you like someone from TAF to come and sit by your side holding your hand?

I feel your pain, but this is really pointless unless we go to the source. Why not stop the abuse where it is with the MBs and AMCs?