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Okay...


I do have a question....
In your opinion should appraisers give consideration to the income approch rather than to the sales approach???
Absolutely income needs to be considered because that's what a typical buyer does. It's not really a "rather than" situation. Sales also need consideration but significant consideration is given to income...there should be a relationship. I find that sale price data gives me reason to consider market rent influences.
 
Absolutely income needs to be considered because that's what a typical buyer does. It's not really a "rather than" situation. Sales also need consideration but significant consideration is given to income...there should be a relationship. I find that sale price data gives me reason to consider market rent influences.

Thanks
 
The SC grid in the 2-4 form form sucks unless you have comps that have the same number of units and rooms. Apartment units are rented primarily on the basis of bedroom count, not GLA, so that makes GLA itself a minor adjustment. So if you have a 400sf 1bd and a 700sf 1bd there will be some difference in rent but it won't be anywhere near the difference between a 400sf 1bd and a 600sf 2bd.

Ibd units generate more less rent than 2bd units, but generally not 1/2 as much, so using price/bedroom isn't usually that great. What I've found does work better *in this region* is price/room. If you look you might notice that a 1bd unit (3 rooms) will rent for about 75% of a 2bd (4 rms) and then when you're making adjustments you're using the price/rm indicator and adjusting that as your unit of comparison. Obviously, this can vary by locale. We have some properties in the high demand areas (like a beach community or a ski town) where the 2bd units actually do come close for renting for twice as much as the 1bd units.

As others have said, tenants are sensitive to location, quality, condition, unit size, off-street parking and such and that gets reflected in the rent, which in turn is what an investor is looking for, even if they live onsite and are using the other unit incomes to offset their own housing costs.

But this is key - when appraising multi-family you do need a solid rent survey and you need to project the expectations of the typical buyers for the subject and all of the comparables on what you think they'll actually do with those rents once they take ownership. This is where merely going through the motions to fill in the blanks is counterproductive.

Unless there's an external limitation on rent increases, such as a rent control ordinance - you can expect that the average buyer for units will raise the rents to market rate in whatever length of time they think they can pull it off. Not just for the subject but for all the comparables. So if you have comps that are partially owner-occupied or have vacant units or have family members or long term tenants with significantly below market leases then you need to attribute to those units what the buyer expectations will be - which usually means forecasting their rents at the market rate if they're not already at or near.

THEN the resulting GRMs or GIMs will tend to be more consistent and usable.

And then you can get to comparing the subject's rent/unit or rent/rm to the others to identify how much better/worse the tenants think those comps stack up against your subject as an indicator to how the sale prices should be adjusted. If on a price/rm basis my subject units generate 5% more income than S#1, the multiplying S#1s indicator by .95 will equalize it to the subject. That will account for the cumulative differences in location, quality, condition, unit size, amenties and such. Rinse and repeat for all the comparables and there will be precious little else for which to adjust because it's already accounted for in the rents.

That's far from the only way to analyze rental units, but it is one way.
 
Oh yeah, and if you're making line item adjustments in the SC grid you shouldn't assume that the line item adjustments you use for bedrooms in an SFR in that market will be the same as the adjustments that will apply for bedrooms in a multi-family. If it's $10k/bedroom in an SFR, the adjustment for a bedroom in the 4-un property next door might be $25,000 because of its effect on the rents.
 
RE: sales comp vs income approach being given more weight. I think it depends on the quality/quantity of info available in your market. If investors are the typical buyer, and they make their purchasing decisions based on some sort of income approach (DCF, simply GRM, whatever), then whatever decisions they come to will STILL show up in the actual sales. In my market area, it is very rare for someone to live in one unit and rent the other 1-3, so I know MOST sales are investor driven.

The two approaches are very intertwined really. The cap rate we like to use in a DCF model COMES from analyzing sales prices vs income. If most investors are buying multi's with an implied 9% cap rate for a particular condition and style of property, then that sort of sets the bar for that area. One really should not see a big difference in values if properly applying the income and sales comp approaches.

Now as mentioned, on more complex commercial property, where good similar data may not be available or is scarce, the income approach may well take the lead in a reconciliation. But where good sales comp data exists for ANY type of property, I always need a good reason not to give that the most weight.
 
I'm sure we've all appraised 2-4 units where the owner doesn't increase the rents or keeps them below "market" because he likes his tenants and doesn't want to move....
And his property continues t rise with the RE appreciation....

So is his property's value increasing due to the rents of his competitors in spite of his lower rent?
 
I'm sure we've all appraised 2-4 units where the owner doesn't increase the rents or keeps them below "market" because he likes his tenants and doesn't want to move....
And his property continues t rise with the RE appreciation....

So is his property's value increasing due to the rents of his competitors in spite of his lower rent?
At the risk of sounding like an a**, I really think you need to take an income class or two to brush up. The questions that you are asking are basic appraisal theory.
 
At the risk of sounding like an a**, I really think you need to take an income class or two to brush up. The questions that you are asking are basic appraisal theory.

You don't sound like an a##....:beer:

But it would be helpful if you were to provide an answer to my question.... :peace:
 
It is the market in market rent that you are missing here, UC. You have to develop an opinion of market rent.

Where does the subject fit in its market. For sales. For income production.
 
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