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Mark your calenders. Oct 5, 2007 10:30 am

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KenRossman

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I couldn't agree more, Pam...

I think we should concentrate first on those areas that impact the public trust. Fraud, gross misrepresentation etc. Incomplete CE or mistakes regarding which course, how much credit are easily handled with warnings, additional CE and fines.

IMO, revocation should be a last resort only used for very serious chronic offenders.
 

Kevin Mc

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Ditto.

I couldn't agree more, Pam...

I think we should concentrate first on those areas that impact the public trust. Fraud, gross misrepresentation etc.

Realistically we would be best served by taking care of the frausulent skippy mills first then address other items. I think this process is going to take baby steps. The fact that someone who isn't an appraiser can open a shop with 10 trainees(with ZERO experience) and 1 cert to rubber stamp everything blows my mind, and there are several in the Metro area. Trainees coming to me with clients?....it is bad out there and these folks can't be put out of business fast enough. Supervisor/trainee registration should become mandatory, just like Florida. Enough is enough.
 

JoTetherow

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absolutely

thats why i have been trying to find out what things we may actualy have a effect on things. "marrying" supervisors with trainees is the first step. gotta be able to track them.

they was i look at it, if a trainee/newer lic/cert does something stupid on a report, then it is more the fault of their supervisor than their fault. now, if a registered super got caught doing something bad..that is another story.

and ya know what? maybe the board IS talking about this point, we just dont know. the lack of communication is a huge problem. the only way i can see to make them communicate more is to go to the meetings and ask reasonable questions that deserve answers.

baby steps is the right way to go. being reasonable and respectful and in turn, expect reason and respect in return. and if respect is not given to us, then all the people will see that in the webcast. my fondest hope is that everyone shows everyone respect. that is how things get done the best.
 
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Mike Kennedy

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I couldn't agree more, Pam...

I think we should concentrate first on those areas that impact the public trust. Fraud, gross misrepresentation etc. Incomplete CE or mistakes regarding which course, how much credit are easily handled with warnings, additional CE and fines.

IMO, revocation should be a last resort only used for very serious chronic offenders.
REVOCATION of licenses of those PROVEN to be incompetent and fraudulent.
 

Mike Kennedy

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Realistically we would be best served by taking care of the frausulent skippy mills first then address other items. I think this process is going to take baby steps. The fact that someone who isn't an appraiser can open a shop with 10 trainees(with ZERO experience) and 1 cert to rubber stamp everything blows my mind, and there are several in the Metro area. Trainees coming to me with clients?....it is bad out there and these folks can't be put out of business fast enough. Supervisor/trainee registration should become mandatory, just like Florida. Enough is enough.

Triple Ditto.
 

JoTetherow

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Realistically we would be best served by taking care of the frausulent skippy mills first then address other items. I think this process is going to take baby steps. The fact that someone who isn't an appraiser can open a shop with 10 trainees(with ZERO experience) and 1 cert to rubber stamp everything blows my mind, and there are several in the Metro area. Trainees coming to me with clients?....it is bad out there and these folks can't be put out of business fast enough. Supervisor/trainee registration should become mandatory, just like Florida. Enough is enough.
that is partially being taken care of with the new 1/1/08 rules. 3 trainees only and the supervisor has to be certified.

i totally agree that skippy mills need to be stopped but just saying that and complaining about that doesnt help. what we need is CONSTRUCTIVE questions and comments for the board to try and steer them in the same direction. I do know from speaking with the vice chair that he is also very upset about skippy mills and wants to see them go. But HOW would you propose they regulate this? Constructive/Respectful comments and questions is the way to go

I agree that the trainee coming in with their own work from relatives/friends in the mortgage business is just asking for trouble. that is a very good point to bring up to the board. someone can bring in the florida statutes and show them how Florida handled that.
 

Mike Kennedy

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the 15 hour USPAP instead of the 7 hour by mistake/misundertanding?

beginning to look a lot like Christmas............

Jo -any idiot who has a license who "misunderstood" the difference between the 15 and 7 hour USPAP courses..............SHOULD lose their license for sheer stupidity.

I recommended REVOCATIONS......and the reasons.......exactly the same way other states do.
repost / edited to include word omitted from the first.........

"I recommended PUBLISHING revocations.....and the reasons.."..etc.

Please note the prior posting, and 9 & 15, as well as many other prior postings, wherein I called for Revocation of licenses for DEMONSTRATED FRAUD and PROVEN INCOMPETENCE - not simple stupidity. Thank you. :)
 

JoTetherow

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i have read your posts

mike, you posted this: Please note the prior posting, and 9 & 15, as well as many other prior postings, wherein I called for Revocation of licenses for DEMONSTRATED FRAUD and PROVEN INCOMPETENCE - not simple stupidity. Thank you. :)[/QUOTE]

and before that, this

Jo -any idiot who has a license who "misunderstood" the difference between the 15 and 7 hour USPAP courses..............SHOULD lose their license for sheer stupidity

you may want to read your own posts....which is it??????
 
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