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measuring angles on homes

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I just finally figured out how to determine the square footage, now you want me to measure the angle????? If you know how to determine the square footage, you can determine the angle.

My software does it for me can use 22.5, 45, or 90 angles. [/b]
 
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I figure that since my sketch software is more easily geared to working angles based on rise and run from last drawn line, it is good enough for me.... Yes you can use the other stuff, but it is faster and easier just to go so many feet arrow up/down then so many left/right and hit ENTER!

Me and my little tape measure or wheel come close enough for government work on irregular bays and popouts... we have MUCh more creative carpenters adn wanna-be archetects around here... Other than the 2/3 bays, I NEVER assume any particular angle becuase it quite often is not 'regular'.

I DO try to limit these things to one per sketch, otherwise it's a complex appraisal and I decline the assignment (I'M JOKING!!!)

Seriously if you sketch out most of the rest of the house and close the box at the angled part I figure it works out perfectly 98% of the time and the rest it just requires a little tweaking... And if the oddly shaped area boxes back to the otherwise orthagonal remainder, well I am certainly within industry standards!

But don't you love the guy who HAD to put the grand Tara Staircase in the partially extruded round turret which intersects with the octagon shaped room on one side 8O .. I got it 'close enough'.
 
don't you love the guy who HAD to put the grand Tara Staircase in the partially extruded round turret which intersects with the octagon shaped room on one side
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:lol: Yes I do. :roll:

I had a couple that were just about impossible to measure. One was about 3500 SF, not a right angle in the place. Every room was on a different level, lots of stairs. The other was about twice that size and didn't ahve any straight walls. All curves. Compound curves. :? Two story with built in garage on a steep downslope. It was about 50% complete, and apparently they ran over budget and time table. I can't imagine why. :lol:

What are these architects thinking? And the owner / builders?
 
What are these architects thinking? And the owner / builders?
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You guys crack me up......ever know a guy in a Navigator that didn't have vanity plates on it?

Architects assure the client that the monument they want to build can be done in an economical manner. The builders who bid the jobs, knowing an architect is involved, is going to bid bare bones because they know the profit is in the change orders.....and there will be more change orders than there are specs, assuming the architect uses CSI standards. The architect doesn't mind because further consultation is at three times the hourly rate of desinging the thing in the first place. The bulder finishes at 200% of the orignal bid which is 250% more than the architects estimate.....but the buyer gets his monument. All it takes is the appraiser to verify that the price is right so the loan officer can package the loan at 110% and everyone is happy.
 
The only way I will accept an assignment on one of those goofey homes is to have a set of plans...end of discussion! If they can or won't provide a set they can find another appraiser.

I include the following: "information on square footage is from the builder's plans which is assumed to be correct but not guaranteed". I then reduce them down and scan them into my sketch page. Same thing with new construction...it's from the plans and specs.

Worst one I had was a custom built in the mountains that resembled an old english castle complete with turrets on three ends. No worries, here are the plans. Not correct? Not my problem. I ain't no damn archy teck!
 
Ok, testimonial time:

I bought the angle tool from Matt's site and it's very helpful. Timely too as lately I have had the worst boogers to measure- friggin' custom pueblo styles from hell I tell you. The most recent one has angles of 30, 40, and 45 degrees and several radius walls. The angle tool was very helpful as sometimes the rise and run method I love so gets difficult on these. Did one a couple weeks ago where the 'run' was 39 feet. Split level with one wing of the house set at a 35 degree angle. Wacky!

Now then, can we invent a tool that helps with these %$^& radius walls?? I'm no whimp, I can handle 45, 90 or simple 180 degrees. Not a problem, but for crimeny's sake I'm tired of measuring, drawing and hoping I'm reasonably accurate on these irregular bubbles that stick out of the side of these things. One worked out to be 260 degrees, the other, I think :unsure: about 110?? I had my measurements, 2 seperate Improvement Location Reports done by 2 different surveyors, and the builders plans. Would you believe not a one matches???? Thank the Lord for Apex. I do not miss my hand draw and calculate days on these ones!!

Matt also has a nifty expansion ladder I sprung for for my FHA's. Fits in the trunk of a compact car and expands out one rung at a time. Waaaay cool!!
 
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Caterina:

I have been known to draw intersecting freeform lines with hatches at the wal intersections, and make my rough 'bubble' fit the intersections and say GOOD ENOUGH! I once got provided and archy sketch AFTER I accomplished this... and it was pretty dran close!

I figure with that method, I am as close as anyone else is going to be and better than most

welll despite my desire for perfection when it comes to measuring sometimes you just gotta go with the "Close enough for horseshoes" method.

SWAG it baby! :usa:
 
You're all torturing yourselves. When I get assignments like those I call the lender back and insist they re-order the assignment as a 2055 exterior. Saves me a lot of time and hassles. :-)
 
:rofl: :beer: :rofl: I'm gonna try that Bobby!!

Disclosure on my new order form:

'If the subject dwelling is determined by the appraiser to be an architectural monument to the homeowner and designer, the fee triples and the living area calculations are not warranted.'

Think it'd fly?? B)
 
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