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"Minimum Requirements" ?

I find lenders more lenient whether permitted or not especially if appraiser says it's built in workmanlike manner.
Depends on the market reaction. If appears well constructed, market sees it has value.

I find lenders more lenient whether permitted or not especially if appraiser says it's built in workmanlike manner.
Depends on the market reaction. If appears well constructed, market sees it has value.
Yea that makes sense. Last month's job in Palm Deset revealed that the city doesnt allow a non permitted DU to be leased, although the OV didnt include potential rental income.
 
Most Counties City's in So Ca will offer s compliance inspection and permit option's.

You as the appraser don't make that decision. We're sueing an appraiser right now because he killed our sale said it wasn't permitted and made all sorts of assumptions.

We paid City to do a compliance inspection and they came back with a list of changes they wanted to provide permit. It cost us about $5,000 to install new electrical panel add some additional outlet's. Done listed it resold it in 5 days for $20,000 over Bozos saying our it had no value because he didn't find a permit.

We offered the appraiser an out by making his report subject to the permit and he played hard ball.

Now we're asking for damages and we shall see. He FAFO because we're not playing anymore with stupid appraisers playing permit police.
 
Yea that makes sense. Last month's job in Palm Deset revealed that the city doesnt allow a non permitted DU to be leased, although the OV didnt include potential rental income.
Somewhere I had a job in the moutains, a few years ago, maybe Big Bear, the city reg specifically supersedes the state ADU mandate, by prohibiting ADUs.
 
My town wants ADUs but not many being built. State "forcing" cities and towns in CA to meet their housing quota to be supplied given a period of time.
So these large apartment buildings with affordable unit have been approved and bring in hundreds if not thousands of renters. Ugh.
When too many renters, they can push for rent control. Ugh.
 
I received a polite letter around 2005 from OREA. I was supervising my brother (only trainee I have ever trained) and among the samples of appraisal work he submitted to upgrade his license, was a report that had a converted garage (owner admitted no permit for conversion). Brother stated the facts in his report, and valued the converted garage as only a garage, no value to contributory value of the conversion. The client was a direct lender (wamu i think) and in the engagement letter, it stated "appraiser to accord no value to unpermitted additions or conversions." The OREA letter indicated that I should have rejected the assignment based on the engagement condition of no value without permit. Per OREA, if market participants would assign some value to the garage conversion, I was obligated to reflect that if I was completing a "Market Value" appraisal. :)
 
My town wants ADUs but not many being built. State "forcing" cities and towns in CA to meet their housing quota to be supplied given a period of time.
So these large apartment buildings with affordable unit have been approved and bring in hundreds if not thousands of renters. Ugh.
When too many renters, they can push for rent control. Ugh.
Maybe a dumb question, but do builders build apartments specifically to include affordable units? What, based on GLA, etc, etc.? Couldn't be quality of construction, is it???
 
I received a polite letter around 2005 from OREA. I was supervising my brother (only trainee I have ever trained) and among the samples of appraisal work he submitted to upgrade his license, was a report that had a converted garage (owner admitted no permit for conversion). Brother stated the facts in his report, and valued the converted garage as only a garage, no value to contributory value of the conversion. The client was a direct lender (wamu i think) and in the engagement letter, it stated "appraiser to accord no value to unpermitted additions or conversions." The OREA letter indicated that I should have rejected the assignment based on the engagement condition of no value without permit. Per OREA, if market participants would assign some value to the garage conversion, I was obligated to reflect that if I was completing a "Market Value" appraisal. :)
Wow. I just posted on the AF couple weeks ago because I received that condition from a lender about a detached garage-to-living area conversion...although there was nothing in the Engagement about that factor, and the report was long-done and too late to turn down the assignment. I honestly don't know what would happen to the assignment if an appraiser refuses to honor a condition after the report had been assigned. I think I did that only a few times ever and just never heard anything in response, although I probably never received any further assignments. Hmmmm
 
I received a polite letter around 2005 from OREA. I was supervising my brother (only trainee I have ever trained) and among the samples of appraisal work he submitted to upgrade his license, was a report that had a converted garage (owner admitted no permit for conversion). Brother stated the facts in his report, and valued the converted garage as only a garage, no value to contributory value of the conversion. The client was a direct lender (wamu i think) and in the engagement letter, it stated "appraiser to accord no value to unpermitted additions or conversions." The OREA letter indicated that I should have rejected the assignment based on the engagement condition of no value without permit. Per OREA, if market participants would assign some value to the garage conversion, I was obligated to reflect that if I was completing a "Market Value" appraisal. :)
First of all, why the hell you allowed your brother to send a sample with an unpermitted work. I send the easiest simple cookie cutter reports with no questions ask.

Second, decades ago I would do the same way and give no value for unpermitted work. Owner got upset with me one time when I didn't give value for a remodeled kitchen done without permits.
Lucky, owner didn't file complaint against me. I was young and inexperienced back then. I know better now.
 
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