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Newbie Measuring question

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On an old 2 story home that is really like a 1 and half story where on the second floor the walls might go up two or three feet before the walls start to follow the angle of the roof and the ceilings might seem particularly low but still has a window and is used as a bedroom. Do we measure this square footage any differently then we would the first floor? Thank you
 

Basically Rectangular

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Some folks include the whole area, but technically the sloped ceiling height should be 5 feet to be included in the GLA. Also the whole area should have at least 50% 7 ft wall height. This is taken directly from ANSI at How to Measure a house
"Level ceilings must be at least 7 feet high, and at least 6 feet 4 inches under beams, ducts and other obstructions. There is no height restriction under stairs. If a room has a sloped ceiling, at least one-half of the finished floor area must have a ceiling height of at least 7 feet. Otherwise, omit the entire room from the floor area calculations. If a room with a sloped ceiling meets the one-half-of-floor-area-over-7-feet requirement, then include all the floor space with a ceiling height over 5 feet. "
 

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Oh yeah. Looking forward to the newbie and urgent help forums heating up with questions from notaries and RE Agents on how to measure for the new hybrid inspections.

OP..this is not directed towards you - you asked a legit question which goes to show how experience trumps any foundation virtual tutorial or half hour online Amrock video.
 

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Some folks include the whole area, but technically the sloped ceiling height should be 5 feet to be included in the GLA. Also the whole area should have at least 50% 7 ft wall height. This is taken directly from ANSI at How to Measure a house
"Level ceilings must be at least 7 feet high, and at least 6 feet 4 inches under beams, ducts and other obstructions. There is no height restriction under stairs. If a room has a sloped ceiling, at least one-half of the finished floor area must have a ceiling height of at least 7 feet. Otherwise, omit the entire room from the floor area calculations. If a room with a sloped ceiling meets the one-half-of-floor-area-over-7-feet requirement, then include all the floor space with a ceiling height over 5 feet. "
Thank you for the detailed response. This makes perfect sense. I understand now why the square footage may be less then the actual measurement when factoring areas of lower ceiling height. Thank you
 

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What to call it (GLA, finished attic, etc) is only half the battle. The harder task is determining market reaction, i.e, how to adjust for it. Could be $0. Could be nearly the identical $/sf as your main GLA. That is a very market specific thing. If most homes in your area have similar spaces, likely is more valuable than if most have full height 2nd stories.
 

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Accessors seldom if ever have access to the interior of the home and their methods will vary between jurisdictions. As a fee appraiser working on a property specific assignment, it is important to understand how the Realtors and Accessors calculate all measurements including below grade areas. I state in the report that I follow ansi and describe how my differences may vary from the others. You will most likely never have a stip after delivery if you explain that upfront.

Happy appraising!!
 

ramrcdk

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Accessors seldom if ever have access to the interior of the home and their methods will vary between jurisdictions. As a fee appraiser working on a property specific assignment, it is important to understand how the Realtors and Accessors calculate all measurements including below grade areas. I state in the report that I follow ansi and describe how my differences may vary from the others. You will most likely never have a stip after delivery if you explain that upfront.

Happy appraising!!

Eddie B: THIS SHOULD BE BOLDED AND in CAPS!
Where we have been instructed to "care" and realtors are mandated to measure in their listings
TO the NOW Hybrid WORLD where who gives a ______
Please describe WHERE YOU GOT and WHY it may be DIFFERENT on your ASSUMPTION (S) PAGE (S) of EA & HC
 
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