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If EappraiseIT has a problem with the opinions expressed by appraisers on this forum they should come here and address them directly. Using lawyers and SLAPP suits is going to be perceived as the equivalent of validating all those contrary opinions.

But as long as they're going to choose other venues we might as well address them in other venues, too. Maybe more of the state appraisal boards should be showing an interest in some of these allegations.

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interesting this is a trending topic... :rof:
 
I have no opinion one way or another toward the potential lawsuit, just sharing because it's making the rounds on LinedIn:


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And they're getting away with that due to the effective lack of legal prohibitions against shopping by fee.
Federal Register guidelines on appropriate appraiser selection methods. You perhaps slept through the past two decades of epic AMC industry racketeering.


An institution’s selection process should ensure that a qualified, competent and
independent person is selected to perform a valuation assignment. An institution should
maintain documentation to demonstrate that the appraiser or person performing an evaluation is competent, independent, and has the relevant experience and knowledge for the market, location, and type of real property being valued. Further, the person who selects or oversees the selection of appraisers or persons providing evaluation services should be independent from the loan production area.



The other pertinent quote follows:


Moreover, the Guidelines stress that an institution should not select a valuation method or tool solely because it provides the highest value, the lowest cost, or the fastest response or
turnaround time.

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That's not even the most important news. Federal injunction on stopping shut down of CFPB appears to be invalidated by recent SCOTUS ruling.

Which means C&R rules from DF Reg Z are or will be soon back in effect.

And the AMC industry is currently or soon to be in clear violation of customary and reasonable billing regulations, subsequently exposed to liability and federal penalties for;

$10,000 per instance, and $20,000 per recurring instance, DAILY RECURRING fines, for failure to pay C&R billing rates to appraisers. Per each individual a.m.c. You know, the agents of the lenders whom act on behalf of the lender, and can stack liability on not just their own companies, but behalf of the lenders they provide agency for.

Let's blow some dust off those old brain files shall we. See if you can still lie to yourself and everyone else about what free market principals are and are not, what racketeering is and is not, what fair consumer and fair vendor engagement principals revolving around standard business ethics are, and are not, as you pontificate in this soap box and limited hangout fish bowl.

Mike Kennedy over a decade ago from this forum; Please advise when the fictitious cfpb safe harbor fee interpretations will be rescinded.

You can keep on lying if you want to. We know you're lying. You know we know you're lying. And you continue to lie anyways.

Improperly co mingled fees.




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Let's blow some dust off those old brain files shall we. See if you can still lie to yourself and everyone else about what free market principals are and are not, what racketeering is and is not, what fair consumer and fair vendor engagement principals revolving around standard business ethics are, and are not, as you pontificate in this soap box and limited hangout fish bowl.

Mike Kennedy over a decade ago from this forum; Please advise when the fictitious cfpb safe harbor fee interpretations will be rescinded.

You can keep on lying if you want to. We know you're lying. You know we know you're lying. And you continue to lie anyways.

Improperly co mingled fees.
If you're going to call me a liar then the first step is to read what I actually said.

Kindly note my use of the "effective" qualifier. I didn't use that qualifier by accident. A prohibition or requirement that isn't enforced cannot function as a prohibition or requirement.

MY PREFERANCE would have been for D-F to return the lenders to direct engagement with no 3rd party involvement. I've said so many times over the years. I don't know what pretzel logic you could use to reconcile that position as somehow being biased ion favor of the AMC model, C&R or no C&R. Speaking of, I always favored the original intent of C&R and disagreed with the Final Rule wherein the AMCs were left to their own alternatives. So there's no reason for you to be twisting that advocacy into somehow meaning the opposite.

IMO you should consider using more compartmentalization between what you think and how you feel on this topic. Leastwise as it relates to your interpretation of my commentary.

I was opposed to the bundled fee model 20 years ago and I'm still opposed to the bundled fee model today. I have never wavered on that. Just because I can understand why they do it doesn't mean I am cheering them on. Just because I can imagine how much worse it can get for fee appraisers doesn't mean I want that to happen to anyone.

Do better
 
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Hello all...

I am a trainee who is about to complete my first 150hrs of classroom work so that I can enter PAREA for the licensed residential cert. PAREA is about the only option I have as I am currently active duty Navy and unable to work as a trainee in person. It also allows me to move once I retire without losing ground.

Realizing that there is something lost by not working under an in-person mentor, would it be reasonable to work as a trainee under a mentor for a few months even once I have a license through PAREA? Would any of you experienced appraisers entertain a mentor position of someone who is technically qualified but practically lacking? Just trying to figure out the best way forward.
 
We've told new licensees for years to seek out the best appraisal operation in town as a means of improving their access to the higher quality assignments and the higher quality clientele. There's considerably more to being an appraiser than knowing how to fill out the form. Acting in the role with clients and borrowers and the public is one of those things and there's no way PAREA can expose students to that and a dozen other factors. .

I worked for other people for 7 years before I went out on my own. It cost me to do that but it also exposed me to opportunities I would never have gotten had I struck out on my own after only a couple years.

Whenever the real estate economy slows down it is the most vulnerable appraisers who get starved out first. That includes the newer appraisers as well as those whose book of work is unstable.
 
Hello all...

I am a trainee who is about to complete my first 150hrs of classroom work so that I can enter PAREA for the licensed residential cert. PAREA is about the only option I have as I am currently active duty Navy and unable to work as a trainee in person. It also allows me to move once I retire without losing ground.

Realizing that there is something lost by not working under an in-person mentor, would it be reasonable to work as a trainee under a mentor for a few months even once I have a license through PAREA? Would any of you experienced appraisers entertain a mentor position of someone who is technically qualified but practically lacking? Just trying to figure out the best way forward.
I'm not sure of your time frame, but don't pay for it. If the AI, TAF, ASC, GSEs, etc. are true to their word you check the box for scholarship money. The appraisal institute's window for Pathways to Success Scholarship is open through September 30, 2025. And I'm sure a quick google search will reveal other opportunities, apply for all. And don't be shy, they have specifically identified veterans transitioning as targets for the help, if you receive no help speak up on social media.

Depending on where you land and when you land, this is a tough business. Refinance and purchase transactions have NEVER been so low, and that's three years running. As a result, indie residential appraiser numbers have fallen roughly half since the peak about 15 years ago. And don't believe the narrative that residential appraisers are gate keepers who don't want to train competition, because not long ago you or any other aspiring appraiser could take the QE courses, pass the national & state test, and were then licensed. After two years of logged experience you could apply for certified. The license option didn't require PAREA or Practicum courses, QE was all you needed. The same people who claim residential appraisers refused to train and caused a shortage and looming demographics problem are the ones who decided the industry had to many appraisers, so they removed the license option only to revive it a few years later with additional classes they sell to the tune of $8-12,000.

Good luck.
 
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