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Robert Dunkle

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Are any of you also doing Phase 1 Environmental Assessments? Got an e-mail about a class in OKC to get certified as a Phase 1 EA and just wondered some of the pros and cons or if it would be a conflict of interest to try to do both.
 
Probably a good question for your E&O provider and further investigation of additional E&O costs.:icon_idea:
 
Are any of you also doing Phase 1 Environmental Assessments? Got an e-mail about a class in OKC to get certified as a Phase 1 EA and just wondered some of the pros and cons or if it would be a conflict of interest to try to do both.

Would you share a link to who(m)ever is giving that class?
 
Are any of you also doing Phase 1 Environmental Assessments? Got an e-mail about a class in OKC to get certified as a Phase 1 EA and just wondered some of the pros and cons or if it would be a conflict of interest to try to do both.


Can you tell us something about the demand for this?

Who requests such assessments?

For those who conduct "Phase 1 Environmental Assessments", can you tell us what the qualifications are?
 
I was certified years ago but let it lapse. I didn't have the confidence the designating body was sufficiently trustworthy to remain certified by them and that proved correct. The group disappeared I understand. Typically, I would think you might take significant training but generating business outside the engineering field seems problematic. The liability would also be high and E & O would be a must I presume.

Phase I is the non-invasive form of inspection, sort of a home inspection for property. There are standards which I believe is governed by ASTM on the private side and there is more than one standard as I recall.
 
I was certified to do these a few years ago when the appraisal business was slow, and actually did a couple. I really enjoyed them, and they use many of the same skill sets we use as appraisers. You inspect the property for readily observable environmental issues (underground tanks, etc.), do historical record research, interview previous owners and neighbors, etc. The you write a report (usually narrative) and recommend actual further testing (phase II) or state no further testing needed. I stopped doing them for two reasons: 1) There was little demand. In my area, lenders were only ordering Phase I's if the transaction was over 1 million dollars (nobody wanted to pay 1500+ for somehthing that only reduced liabililty and was not required.) and 2) In order to do these you have to be an Environmental Professional. There are several ways to be classified as an EP. I can't remember the specifics but like a licensed engineer or geologist or ten years training/experience. As T said, basically two sets of standards: ASTM and AII (all appropriate inquiry thru EPA.) One (cant remember which) required the EP to actually physically inspect and the other said he must supervise. So you must have an EP to sign your reports. Later found out that many in the industry frown upon having an non EP inspect and an EP sign off as supervisor (think trainees with appraiser sitting at office signing everything.) If the class is not expensive, you would probably find it interesting. And if you can find an EP, you may even want to pursue. Re Rex's comment, you absolutely need insurance. My EP had a 1 or 2 million dollar environmental coverage policy. There is also an abbreviated site inspection called a transaction screen that lenders sometimes use. There are no specific requirments to do these, I dont think. Google phase 1 environmental assessments and a bunc of sites come up explaining; also the ASTM site is good, as is a site for a company called EDR that provides the historical reports.
 
Like Terrell I was certified for them for a couple of years. The forms are in most appraisal sets. It is just a visual inspection of the ground/property answering questions that lead to ---Does a Phase II need to be done (core sample test). I did not see an income stream locally that would cover extra E&O unless I wanted to start a business that could do the Phase II and Phase III inspections State wide.
 
Don't know anything more than this is the email I received from them. When I went back looking for the email, I see that AOL put it in my SPAM folder.


Environmental Solutions Association

Upcoming Live Classes:

Phase 1 Environmental Site Assessment Course- Oklahoma City, OK 1/25/13
The Phase 1 course will certify you and open up the door to commercial building inspections. On average you can charge anywhere from $500 to $5,000 per inspection depending on the square footage. This type of environmental site assessment inspection is mandatory; the bank will always request to have this inspection done to help the bank avoid possible legal issues and high cost. With that being said there will always be a high demand for Phase 1 certified inspectors. Call me directly at the number listed below for more information on the upcoming Phase 1 Environmental Site Assessment class we are having in Oklahoma City, OK on 1/25/13. Also, check out some of our other certified courses we offer live or online.

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Most of this kind of work is owned by large environmental engineering firms. As I geologist I was more of a Phase 2 or 3 kind of guy, but I've done a few phase 1's when things were slow. It is not dissimilar at all to appraising, but the knowledge base (hazardous chemicals and environmental regulations) are much different.

I cant imagine its realistic to do this as a small shop. A big part of what the client is buying is your reputation and insurance policy. For a company doing Phase 2 and 3 work, the rider for phase 1 work is a trifle. Plus, they have the kind of high level marketing you need to get this work, and it makes sense for them to do this kind of work as a loss-leader to get the follow on 2 and 3 work where the real money is (add a zero or 3 to the Phase 1 price tags.)
 
So....after you spend all that money on courses to become qualified to do Phase I assessments, how long does it take you to recoup your expenses?
 
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