Porch, Patio, Deck

[Fernando]

In the sales grid under Porch, Patio, Deck, I sometimes lazy and just put Patio or Patio, Deck even though having porch. This item is insignificant but one reviewer wanted me to put Porch,Patio,Deck if it has it.
Do you think that's nick picky?

 

[Mike Kennedy]

Accuracy Matters.

 

[glenn walker]

Thats a reviewer who had nothing else to do. The good part is he/she probably overlooked teh serious adjustments like GLA, Physical Conditions and or locations . SO that means you did a good report and the reviewer was down to looking for typos or porch issues. BUT on FHA you better put in the grid what is there and also have it on your sketch or they will ding you. Personally in my area we have very few real porches. We have Covered Entry's with 5 X 5- 6 X 6 pads in front of the door--On those I place the word ENTRY in the Porch grid. If it has a Patio or CV-Patio I insert ENTRY/PATIO- ENTRY CV/PATIO in the grid and normally place a -0- in the cell because unless its a really large Aluma-Wood or newer Covered patio. many out here are old wood and frankly worth zip to a buyer. Anyway YES I believe the reviewer was being a dick but it is what it is. The same goes for fireplaces out here nobody uses the stupid things because its to hot and NOW the new thing is people turning them into Doggy Homes-Clean it up insulate it place a bed and toys in there for Fido. I quit making fireplace adjustments unless its custom or something really to brag about, because there cosmetic in nature and the new builders replaced them with entertainment centers. Anyway most including me were trained to make adjustments for anything and everything and the old VA and FHA appraisers were big into Covered patios and porches. The old codgers-would make a $2,000 garage adjustment on a 1 "V"2 car garage and a $4,000 patio adjustment. I got fired by one because I told him a garage was worth more than a stupid covered patio-he didn't like my attitude and we -went our separate ways. MUCH OF THIS IS AREA SPECIFIC- In the Mountains hell yes I want a fireplace but not in SO CA and in a Mosquito infested house on a pond in the South -Hell yes I want a screened in enclosed porch : ) LMAO

 

[CANative]

Porch, Patio, Deck is just the default in the software/UAD. I usually change it to what it actually is.

 

[Red Flint]

It is not nit picky, it is lazy.

Espresso or jumping jacks, then get your PPD in a row. Think if your house was the subject, would you want another appraiser to miss or mislabel those items?

 

[Fernando]

Thats a reviewer who had nothing else to do. The good part is he/she probably overlooked teh serious adjustments like GLA, Physical Conditions and or locations . SO that means you did a good report and the reviewer was down to looking for typos or porch issues. BUT on FHA you better put in the grid what is there and also have it on your sketch or they will ding you. Personally in my area we have very few real porches. We have Covered Entry's with 5 X 5- 6 X 6 pads in front of the door--On those I place the word ENTRY in the Porch grid. If it has a Patio or CV-Patio I insert ENTRY/PATIO- ENTRY CV/PATIO in the grid and normally place a -0- in the cell because unless its a really large Aluma-Wood or newer Covered patio. many out here are old wood and frankly worth zip to a buyer. Anyway YES I believe the reviewer was being a dick but it is what it is. The same goes for fireplaces out here nobody uses the stupid things because its to hot and NOW the new thing is people turning them into Doggy Homes-Clean it up insulate it place a bed and toys in there for Fido. I quit making fireplace adjustments unless its custom or something really to brag about, because there cosmetic in nature and the new builders replaced them with entertainment centers. Anyway most including me were trained to make adjustments for anything and everything and the old VA and FHA appraisers were big into Covered patios and porches. The old codgers-would make a $2,000 garage adjustment on a 1 "V"2 car garage and a $4,000 patio adjustment. I got fired by one because I told him a garage was worth more than a stupid covered patio-he didn't like my attitude and we -went our separate ways. MUCH OF THIS IS AREA SPECIFIC- In the Mountains hell yes I want a fireplace but not in SO CA and in a Mosquito infested house on a pond in the South -Hell yes I want a screened in enclosed porch : ) LMAO

If it's a large covered or enclosed porch, I'll note it. But porches vary, could be a landing, portico, or some kind of entry. Patio varies also, some are small or large. If nicely done with pavers, I'll mention it. I hope this entry will go away like the fireplace which was not significant.

 

[Tom4value]

You hit the nail on the head, LAZY. If you put it in the sketch, put it on the grid. If there is no value, put “0” and explain why. If you are lazy you cannot complain about nit picking.

 

[alebrewer]

It is up to the appraiser to determine what are, and what aren't, elements of comparison. If the market doesn't recognize a difference in value between patios and decks, then it doesn't - end I'd probably guess that many markets don't. That said, It probably is better form to cite what the external 'floored' area really is. I don't think that this practice, in and of itself, would buy you a trip to an investigator's office (or DNU list), but remember - USPAP also defines negligence as a 'series of errors that, although individually might not significantly affect the results of an appraisal, in the aggregate affects the credibility of those results.' (S1.1(c))

 

[Fernando]

Another pet peeve is the subject/comp history. If it's not a sale but just a transfer of ownership like to a Trust, it's a waste of time to indicate this nonsale transfer. It's not important to appraising.

 

[Tom D]

so do FHA, and you gotta have all it's measurements on the drawing, and state covered, uncovered. if you see it in the photo you need to mention it. had the HUD reviewer remark that i didn't mention the fireplace in the living room of the row home. ok, so after that i always put ornamental fireplace on the appraisal. was to scared to tell the HUD reviewer that it was ornamental, not real (it didn't even look real). just like most appraisers here, my report has every stupid past request already addressed. the 1st time mentioned was enough to know you can't cure stupid. you can only accept it, and go on.