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Poultry Farm Appraisals

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John Harmon

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I have always completed a narrative report for Poultry Farm appraisals. I have been asked by a client (lawyer) to report the appraisal on the "Uniform Agricultural Form". I know this form was offered as the UAAR on the MCS or ACI Development software...but I use Wintotal. Does anyone know what the comparative form in WinTotal is called?

Thanks.
 
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How can there be a "uniform form" for something as diverse as agriculture? If someone calls me for an appraisal and mentions the word "form" that is the end of the conservation.
 
John Harmon said:
I have always completed a narrative report for Poultry Farm appraisals. I have been asked by a client (lawyer) to report the appraisal on the "Uniform Agricultural Form". I know this form was offered as the UAAR on the MCS or ACI Development software...but I use Wintotal. Does anyone know what the comparative form in WinTotal is called?

Thanks.
You might want to check USPAP - you're the appraiser and you're the one that should (insert better) decide about the reporting format. The "lawyer" is a in the legal field - not the appraisal field.
 
Sounds like the lawyer wants it on form 1922. If you search for "1922" you should find it.
 
So what are they doing in Arkansas about burned out layers? Out here, the last processing plant closed and it cost more to process that one pound of meat so they're gassing them and then turning them into compost.

Trouble is, every now and then one doesn't succumb and climbs out of the compost pile and scares the heck out of the residential neighbors. LOL... zombie chickens.
 
RE; Covered with feathers

Greg Boyd said:
So what are they doing in Arkansas about burned out layers? Out here, the last processing plant closed and it cost more to process that one pound of meat so they're gassing them and then turning them into compost.

Trouble is, every now and then one doesn't succumb and climbs out of the compost pile and scares the heck out of the residential neighbors. LOL... zombie chickens.
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Mississippi farmer friends used to sell them to Cambells soup.Dont know if they still do or not.
 
Does anyone know what the comparative form in WinTotal is called?
I thinkt that he may be referring to a agricultural software package and it is not a form but is a complete appraisal system - Agware or www.uaar.net , i think ASFMRA has a link to it if that doesn't work. Assuming it hasn't changed much in 10 years, the form is very much geared towards row crops and non-building intensive agriculture. The software is expensive and near worthless for a poultry farm. You, in effect, have to supplement the forms with narrative and I would venture it would take 2 - 3 days just to fill out the forms correctly the first time if you had everything laid out in front of you. And again, you would be doing idiotic land analyses even if your site is 5 acres. Try finding "pure" land sales for that. Further, while it contains the FmHA forms, they are hardly better.
Is there some rational reason the lawyer wants this on a UAAR form? Or, is he just not wanting to have it on a URAR? I mean, locally we had an appraiser submit one to FSA on a URAR for a rather complex poultry farm. FSA finally sent their own appraiser over to appraise it. Of course that appraiser is now a fannie mae Review appraiser....chicken poop really does float to the top doesn't it?

So, does this involve the crooked lawyers taking cases for Hmong poultry farmers? Or are you defending them. They found, by far, the crookedest appraiser in Oklahoma to "prove" that Hmong paid too much. He uses the FmHA form and 90 pages of unnumbered 'documentation' and didn't even tell you how he arrived at his "cap rate"...He claimed he "confirmed the rate from a competing appraisers report."....which under cross exam was my report from 2 years previous...Never mind he used gas expenses that were double and even triple what the gas company man, under oath, said the average farmer he serviced was paying...nor did he even mention that my 2 year old report reflected gas prices that were a fraction of the price gas currently cost..Then he claims he did not use any Hmong sales because ALL sales to Hmongs were not arm's length because the buyers were "uninformed"..never mind a Hmong sold the farm to the guy, his agent was a Hmong, and that appraiser used a sale that involved a Laotian but did not recognize the name as Laotian.....

If you'd like a copy of this scumbag's report and you are on the defendant's side, I will mail you a copy of it once I confirm your lawyer is, in fact, defending those sued by the Hmong.
 
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Otherwise?

Terrel L. Shields said:
If you'd like a copy of this scumbag's report and you are on the defendant's side, I will mail you a copy of it once I confirm your lawyer is, in fact, defending those sued by the Hmong.
And if the lawyer is on the Hmong side will you recommend to the attorney to demand a report on a URAR? :rof: :rof:
 
It couldn't be worse than the report I allude to... :) His should have been written on toliet paper
 
Thanks to everyone that responded. Thank you Greg Myers for your answer. Terrel, I am not representing the plaintiff or the defendant in the mentioned case. My report is for an "equitable distribution" or divorce case. I would, however, be interested in a copy of the report if you would like to share it with me. It might help me reduce my liability by adding documentation to my addendums.
 
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