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Quantifying Buyer Motivation

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Basic reality check when you're stuck in other people's choices
Sometimes when things do not make sense, it can help to read the definition of value that applies to your assignment and which you include in your report. And then ask yourself whether your choice of sale meets that definition too. If not, then use that observation in your commentary on why you are not relying on it though you are aware of the transaction. Then you show you did not miss it, did analyze it, but found it lacking.
 
Basic reality check when you're stuck in other people's choices
Sometimes when things do not make sense, it can help to read the definition of value that applies to your assignment and which you include in your report. And then ask yourself whether your choice of sale meets that definition too. If not, then use that observation in your commentary on why you are not relying on it though you are aware of the transaction. Then you show you did not miss it, did analyze it, but found it lacking.

Well said and as eloquent as your avatar.
 
Specific to the Thread's Subject
In my report, for users, reviewers, and clarity of report understanding : For "a potential question" as to why you did and/or why you did not
use a neighboring sale? If found in my data as being NOT arm's length or unique to market as "typical",
I simply state "Why" it (by address or MLS or...other) was not considered in the market or analysis.
Hopefully this stops after-delivery questions & I don't have re-visiting why I did not use "X sale".

THIS ALSO WOULD BE A COMMENT IN OTHER THREADS WHERE: IS THE DATA WE RECEIVE FROM A THIRD PARTY
CONSIDERED : OPINION OR FACT: HYBRIDS, EVALUATIONS, ETC. AND WHAT CONFLICTING DATA DOES AN APPRAISER USE
say in Standard 1.

Recalling: I did have a "Subject" situation: the realtor MLS listed the property as having a 2/C garage
& where- when asked he simply stated " he did not visit the property upon listing ", one of his cronies did.
My Response "OK then! Please correct the MLS data and did you do market analysis prior listing & based upon correct data?"
Nope and did not do a market analysis. (I sent MLS the corrected -correct data for the subject = And also to aid any other market use)

... where there were NO properties of 2/C garages in a spec' development of 1/C garages,
easy to prove the grid extraction over & over for the MP difference, same spec' -builder next development over having 2/C garages.
So, with zero adjusted sale grid evidence, the Appraisal reconciled below sale price.
**The lender DID contact me regarding same & sent over 2 MLS #s to use TO bring UP the value.
**I did have to re-visit my report to point out the "bolded comments and page number" "where I had already" extensively
described the market rational indicators and the agent's error in listing and NO ONE would have caught the error until Potential Use-Too-Late.
**And to also point out the 2 extra MLS numbers: 1 was a 2/C garage sale already considered IN the grid
& the other MLS number DID NOT exist.
SO... the lender helped make my point of reconciled value (by picking a comp already used) & where if not checked by a "caring appraiser"
the NOT-in existence MLS bubbles up questions of where did the Fake sale come from?

Sure to say, we all have had similar situations where the Lender or AMC directs us to "use" certain sales.
I can not be influenced by the request, it is market that is my BOSS.
Non-Arm's Length (the definition described by the thread poster) would not be considered in an Arm's Length World Scope, nor would Unique.
 
Specific to the Thread's Subject
In my report, for users, reviewers, and clarity of report understanding : For "a potential question" as to why you did and/or why you did not
use a neighboring sale? If found in my data as being NOT arm's length or unique to market as "typical",
I simply state "Why" it (by address or MLS or...other) was not considered in the market or analysis.
Hopefully this stops after-delivery questions & I don't have re-visiting why I did not use "X sale".

THIS ALSO WOULD BE A COMMENT IN OTHER THREADS WHERE: IS THE DATA WE RECEIVE FROM A THIRD PARTY
CONSIDERED : OPINION OR FACT: HYBRIDS, EVALUATIONS, ETC. AND WHAT CONFLICTING DATA DOES AN APPRAISER USE
say in Standard 1.

Recalling: I did have a "Subject" situation: the realtor MLS listed the property as having a 2/C garage
& where- when asked he simply stated " he did not visit the property upon listing ", one of his cronies did.
My Response "OK then! Please correct the MLS data and did you do market analysis prior listing & based upon correct data?"
Nope and did not do a market analysis. (I sent MLS the corrected -correct data for the subject = And also to aid any other market use)

... where there were NO properties of 2/C garages in a spec' development of 1/C garages,
easy to prove the grid extraction over & over for the MP difference, same spec' -builder next development over having 2/C garages.
So, with zero adjusted sale grid evidence, the Appraisal reconciled below sale price.
**The lender DID contact me regarding same & sent over 2 MLS #s to use TO bring UP the value.
**I did have to re-visit my report to point out the "bolded comments and page number" "where I had already" extensively
described the market rational indicators and the agent's error in listing (and NO ONE would have caught the error until Potential Use-Too-Late).
**And to also point out the 2 extra MLS numbers: 1 was a 1/C garage sale already considered IN the grid
& the other MLS number DID NOT exist.
SO... the lender helped make my point of reconciled value (by picking a comp already used) & where if not checked by a "caring appraiser"
the NOT-in existence MLS bubbles up questions of where did the Fake sale come from?

Sure to say, we all have had similar situations where the Lender or AMC directs us to "use" certain sales.
I can not be influenced by the request, it is market that is my BOSS.
Non-Arm's Length (the definition described by the thread poster) would not be considered in an Arm's Length World Scope, nor would Unique.
 
Is this neighbors house one of the few in town with "outdoors feel" and creek frontage? Do all the other comps analyzed that support a much lower value also have "outdoors feel" and creek frontage?
 
I am confused if it is other sales of properties with "outdoors feel" and creek frontage that suggest that the sale price of the neighbors property is a outlier or if properties without "outdoors feel" and creek frontage are the basis for it being a outlier.
 
First it's almost impossible to get into another persons motivation especially when nothing adds up and as both a Appraiser and Broker I can tell lots of stories about weird deals that made no sense- But-here are a few big Red-Flags and this is why you need to focus on the value and sit buyer motivation on the shelf-Especially if its a purchase or refinance - Easiest way to get large amount of tax free cash is for two guys say a buyer and seller to form a plan -then get together and make a deal- House is worth $500,000 but if they can show a purchase contract at $700,000 and get some appraiser to hit the number it's a done deal. Often these buyers story and motivation is so convincing the appraiser even starts believing their B.S.and if everything goes as planned they split the $200,000. If things go south everyone turns on the appraiser

Also buyer motivation is rarely disclosed because legitimate buyer motivation is normally a person trying to purchase something for way under market value or what it's worth and the buyer wants his broker to negotiate as hard as possible. The most dangerous buyer motivation is when the buyer says I will pay any price for this property !! because either his emotions have over-taken his common sense, he just fell off the turnip truck, has more money then brains or it's all simply just part of the act. No matter what rarely does anything good come out of these situations.

While doing Forensic Appraisal and Consulting for attorneys it was quite common for the Pump and Dump schemers who got caught to simply say they loved the property and simply got swindled by the seller or his brokers and the appraiser. Unfortunately their defense came to a halt when it was discovered the entire real estate transaction was an-orchestrated event.

Even in legitimate situations extreme buyer motivation is often a sign of emotion and not supported by the facts. Think about how some people act when they fall in love same principle sometimes can apply in real estate. Unfortunately a scorned buyer or seller will do anything to lay blame on someone else.

( Some Thoughts Below )

1- Don't get involved emotionally with so called buyer motivations.
2- No matter how good or crazy the story is focus only on the comparable sales and data.
3- Don't make statements about the buyers motivations because it's can come back to haunt you.
4- If the buyer is obtaining a purchase loan-his extreme motivation should be backed up by cash..
5- Always appraise the client and these buyers before appraising the property. ( Never Forget This )
6- If you have that gut feeling something just doesn't add up simply call in sick and run don't walk.
7- Appraisers not trained for Red-Flags or Slim-Shady types are often charmed and conned.
8- When the ****-hit's the fan the buyer-seller-lender- will all turn on the appraiser like rabid dogs.
9- The buyers motivations are fickle and that dream home may end up being their nightmare.
10-OK- now you have been through the 10 step-forensic appraisal program.

Hope this helps : It may take a few therapy sessions with a professional to learn to trust again :)
 
First it's almost impossible to get into another persons motivation especially when nothing adds up and as both a Appraiser and Broker I can tell lots of stories about weird deals that made no sense- But-here are a few big Red-Flags and this is why you need to focus on the value and sit buyer motivation on the shelf-Especially if its a purchase or refinance - Easiest way to get large amount of tax free cash is for two guys say a buyer and seller to form a plan -then get together and make a deal- House is worth $500,000 but if they can show a purchase contract at $700,000 and get some appraiser to hit the number it's a done deal. Often these buyers story and motivation is so convincing the appraiser even starts believing their B.S.and if everything goes as planned they split the $200,000. If things go south everyone turns on the appraiser

Also buyer motivation is rarely disclosed because legitimate buyer motivation is normally a person trying to purchase something for way under market value or what it's worth and the buyer wants his broker to negotiate as hard as possible. The most dangerous buyer motivation is when the buyer says I will pay any price for this property !! because either his emotions have over-taken his common sense, he just fell off the turnip truck, has more money then brains or it's all simply just part of the act. No matter what rarely does anything good come out of these situations.

While doing Forensic Appraisal and Consulting for attorneys it was quite common for the Pump and Dump schemers who got caught to simply say they loved the property and simply got swindled by the seller or his brokers and the appraiser. Unfortunately their defense came to a halt when it was discovered the entire real estate transaction was an-orchestrated event.

Even in legitimate situations extreme buyer motivation is often a sign of emotion and not supported by the facts. Think about how some people act when they fall in love same principle sometimes can apply in real estate. Unfortunately a scorned buyer or seller will do anything to lay blame on someone else.

( Some Thoughts Below )

1- Don't get involved emotionally with so called buyer motivations.
2- No matter how good or crazy the story is focus only on the comparable sales and data.
3- Don't make statements about the buyers motivations because it's can come back to haunt you.
4- If the buyer is obtaining a purchase loan-his extreme motivation should be backed up by cash..
5- Always appraise the client and these buyers before appraising the property. ( Never Forget This )
6- If you have that gut feeling something just doesn't add up simply call in sick and run don't walk.
7- Appraisers not trained for Red-Flags or Slim-Shady types are often charmed and conned.
8- When the ****-hit's the fan the buyer-seller-lender- will all turn on the appraiser like rabid dogs.
9- The buyers motivations are fickle and that dream home may end up being their nightmare.
10-OK- now you have been through the basic 10 step-forensic appraisal program.
11-Next stop 10-Step at AA and weekly sessions with a good therapist for anger management issues.

Hope this helps : It may take a few therapy sessions with a professional to learn to trust again :)
 
When I choose not to use a sale, I keep the reasons succinct. You've explored diligently why you are not going to use it, but the explanation does not have delve into the psyche of the buyer (imo). I might write along lines of , "A sale occurred at ( address ) 4 months ago, on same street as subject with an equivalent view. It sold for 100k over the other similar home sales due to a cash offer from an atypically motivated buyer and was not exposed to the open market. Therefore this sale is not included in the grid. "

I avoid statements like " The sale does not represent market value", or " it sold for over market value"...

"I avoid statements like " The sale does not represent market value", or " it sold for over market value"..."

Why?
 
"I avoid statements like " The sale does not represent market value", or " it sold for over market value"..."

Why?

It's been covered here on the forum numerous times. are not appraisng the comp for marekt value, we are only appraising the subject, for an opinion of market value so avoid giving a market value benchmarks /opinions on comps in your statements

We can adjust comps for non MV terms of sale or motivations, which is different than making MV opinions of value about them, even as a benchmark (this was confirmed by D Wiley in prior threads)
 
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