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Question About Appraisal On The Border Of Another Town

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Deihmos

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I am looking at a home that is on the border of another town Valley Stream NY. The home is located in Rosedale. If I cross the street I am in Valley Stream. There are homes sold across the street but they are located in Valley Stream. Can an appraiser include homes sold in Valley Stream in his appraisal?
 
What do you mean? Compete for home sales? I have no idea. I would think so.
 
we have the same issues in the city. look left $60,000, look right $250,000. would the same buyer look at both areas as potential substitutes. if you don't know "compete", ask the realtors of the comps you think to use. then a good explanation of why there is, or is not, a difference in comp location.
 
What do you mean? Compete for home sales? I have no idea. I would think so.
(my bold).

I see you are a member of the general public and I don't expect you to be a real estate expert.
Markets are sometimes defined by jurisdictional boundaries (city limits). Markets are sometimes defined by neighborhood boundaries within a city. Markets are sometimes defined by specific geographical features (a river).
Homes included as comparables should be homes that directly compete with the subject (your house). Many times, we find that homes in City A best compete with other homes in City A even if the subject is located across the street from City B.
However, sometimes the competitive market is not defined by a city boundary and homes on both sides of the border compete equally with one another such that a buyer of a house won't differentiate due to the city address. Other factors, such as school districts, can be embedded in the difference in city address.

There is an area where I work known as "East Palo Alto"; next door to it is "Palo Alto". A home one one side of the street may be worth 25-50% less than the one on the other side of the street if those two homes are in the different cities. Driving down the street, you may not be able to tell the difference.
 
Fannie Mae guideline relating to Comparable Sales-

Selection of Comparable Sales

The appraiser is responsible for determining which comparables are the best and most appropriate for the assignment. Fannie Mae expects the appraiser to account for all factors that affect value when completing the analysis. Comparable sales should have similar physical and legal characteristics when compared to the subject property. These characteristics include, but are not limited to, site, room count, gross living area, style, and condition. This does not mean that the comparable must be identical to the subject property, but it should be competitive and appeal to the same market participants that would also consider purchasing the subject property. Comparables that are significantly different from the subject property may be acceptable; however, the appraiser must describe the differences, consider these factors in the market value, and provide an explanation justifying the use of the comparable(s).

Comparable sales from within the same neighborhood (including subdivision or project) as the subject property should be used when possible. Sale activity from within the neighborhood is the best indicator of value for properties in that neighborhood as sales prices of comparable properties from the same location should reflect the same positive and negative location characteristics.

Fannie Mae does allow for the use of comparable sales that are located in competing neighborhoods, as these may simply be the best comparables available and the most appropriate for the appraiser’s analysis. If this situation arises, the appraiser must not expand the neighborhood boundaries just to encompass the comparables selected. The appraiser must indicate the comparables are from a competing neighborhood and address any differences that exist. The appraiser must also provide an explanation as to why he or she used the specific comparable sales in the appraisal report and include a discussion of how a competing neighborhood is comparable to the subject neighborhood.

If a property is located in an area in which there is a shortage of truly comparable sales, either because of the nature of the property improvements or the relatively low number of sales transactions in the neighborhood, the appraiser might need to use as comparable sales, properties that are not truly comparable to the subject property. In some situations, sales of properties that are not truly comparable may simply be the best available and the most appropriate for the appraiser’s analysis. The use of such sales is acceptable as long as the appraiser adequately documents his or her analysis and explains why these sales were used. (For additional information, see B4-1.3-03, Neighborhood Section of the Appraisal Report. For specific information concerning the selection of comparable sales for manufactured home appraisals, see B4-1.4-01, Factory-Built Housing: Manufactured Housing.)

When describing the proximity of the comparable sale to the subject property, the appraiser must be specific with respect to the distance in terms of miles and include the applicable directional indicator (for example, “1.75 miles NW”). The distance between the subject property and each comparable property is to be measured using a straight line between the properties.
 
You could if you have too BUT questions you have to ask are do they compete , school districts , public services similar or the same. It should be very easy to run some data and see what prices are like. In my area I rarely go into another city or county because we have large price differences and often different school districts and police and fire services. Example : Montclair is Adjacent to the City of Claremont and one is located in San Bernardino County and the other in Los Angeles County and the prices in Claremont are 40% to 60% higher.
 
I would not cross a city line for comps. There would have to be a good compelling reason..
 
OTOH, I wouldn't think twice about crossing a line between towns or cities, unless there was a compelling reason not to.

School system lines, in this area, are important in some price ranges but the towns are essentially the same in nearly all valuation-important respects. I'm more concerned about school district boundaries than town/cities boundaries.
 
This appraisal have me a little nervous because the only homes sold in the area were built in 1920 and the home I want was built in 2000. The older homes cost 60K less than what the seller is asking for the home built in 2000. So I guess he will use those and come up short of the asking price. It looks like the adjustments for size is so small that it doesn't make much of a difference and I doubt they will consider the property has a carport, backyard deck, 3 way heating, new kitchen and curb appeal. I will find out soon.

Do appraisers consider the property assessment for City Taxes? I read that the appraisals are usually higher than the assessment for taxes. Is that true? What should I prepare for the appraiser to increase the likelihood of meeting the asking price?
 
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