Recently Became Certified - Getting On Approved Lists

[CB27]

double post

 

[CB27]

If I were you I'd (and assuming you still enjoy appraising SFRs) I'd go looking for the apex predator appraiser in your region and try to worm my way in there to continue your professional advancement. You know, the shop that draws the best clients and makes the most demands of the appraisers they work with and rakes in the strongest fees no matter who else on the outside is starving. it usually won't be the biggest outfit around, but rather the one with the primo reputation. Someone who will attack your reports with the red pen, mercilessly and without any human compassion whatsoever for that quivering lip you get when someone is yelling at you for doing dumb things.

You are known by the company you keep, the clients you do assignments for and the reputation you develop for gutting it out no matter what it takes. Then by the time you really are ready to go solo you'll have a reputation with the kinds of clients you actually want, and you'll know a lot better how to work your way through new situations.

That is, that's what I would do If I were you and were starting out again.

I appreciate the advice. I would honestly prefer not to go anywhere else because this is a family situation and I have a great fee split. All we're trying to do is get the clients we have to be ok with me inspecting alone now that I'm certified. If they still require him to review and sign on the right, that is fine. He's been doing this for almost 30 years so he knows the job and trains well, but its mostly by himself so he's a little out of practice on what needs to be done in this situation. He definitely hasn't had anyone work for him after 2007 so I'm sure things have changed since in terms of approval and who he can assign jobs to (or maybe not and I'm overthinking it).

My initial post was really out of frustration from this one client I described in post #2. How does it make sense that they will approve trainees and allow them to inspect alone, but not someone like me? Again we're fine if my boss still has to review/sign. I just don't understand that one, especially when they said they need more appraisers in the county. It was such a punch in the gut because these guys would keep me more than busy based on what they give us now. Then I can go ahead and take a lot of the other steps mentioned here. Just trying to pay some bills after a few years of really scrumming it.

 

[timd354]

All we're trying to do is get the clients we have to be ok with me inspecting alone now that I'm certified. If they still require him to review and sign on the right, that is fine.

Your mentor needs to have a conversation with the firm's clients...I would suggest that he track down and speak with the chief appraiser at each client and explain what you are trying to do.

There is nothing anyone here can do to change the situation.

 

[CB27]

Your mentor needs to have a conversation with the firm's clients...I would suggest that he track down and speak with the chief appraiser at each client and explain what you are trying to do.

There is nothing anyone here can do to change the situation.

Just wanted to see if anyone had similar situations and what they did. This obviously can't be a unique situation where a trainee got certified and looked to get a little more order flow to the firm now that it can handle more work. Not every firm is a one man shop so it has to happen a decent amount.

Of course nobody here can help directly. That's the case with almost anything posted here, so obviously I wasn't asking for that. Just looking for how others have handled this as they went forward from being a trainee. Your advice is helpful so I do appreciate it. It was what we thought we were doing with this one client that inspired this post. Maybe we need to call again and at least get an explanation from them why trainees are allowed to work with them, but I can't. Thanks again.

 

[sandpiperapp]

tim gave the best advice. AMCs employess are like many appraisers, checkbox heroes. As long as everything fits into a nice little box, they are ok. Ask them to go outside that little box causes their brains to explode.

Do as tim suggested. Have your supervisor contact their supervisor or the chief appraiser. Most of the chief appraisers are capable and should be able work outside the checkbox and get your situation sorted

 

[NachoPerito]

The client that wants X years of experience has a right to ask that. Novice appraisers are higher risk for them.

Concentrate on getting work now, maybe from less desirable clients. when you are more experienced and you have proven yourself you can choose your clients.

 

[bnmappraisal]

Many AMCs do not allow "inter office" or otherwise "reassignment" of the appraisal assignment without prior consent.

This is something I've received before: "PLEASE NOTE ONLY THE ASSIGNED APPRAISER MAY COMPLETE THIS ASSIGNMENT UNLESS YOU CLEAR THIS WITH (edited to remove name) AHEAD OF TIME"

So I agree with some of the above, you need to speak with someone of "authority" (maybe the Chief Appraiser or someone in management) to figure it out

 

[PL1957]

Many AMCs do not allow "inter office" or otherwise "reassignment" of the appraisal assignment without prior consent.

This is something I've received before: "PLEASE NOTE ONLY THE ASSIGNED APPRAISER MAY COMPLETE THIS ASSIGNMENT UNLESS YOU CLEAR THIS WITH (edited to remove name) AHEAD OF TIME"

So I agree with some of the above, you need to speak with someone of "authority" (maybe the Chief Appraiser or someone in management) to figure it out

FTR, I see this all the time, but I've never had a client say "no" when I've told them another appraiser will work on the assignment. As long as I'm involved in the assignment, review and sign, the client is fine, as long as they get a heads up.

 

[timd354]

FTR, I see this all the time, but I've never had a client say "no" when I've told them another appraiser will work on the assignment. As long as I'm involved in the assignment, review and sign, the client is fine, as long as they get a heads up.

Yes, that makes sense....the OP's mentor just needs to have conversation with the firm's existing clients explaining what they are trying to do and explaining that the supervisor will review and sign all of the OP's reports until the OP gains enough experience to be added to the client's approved appraiser list. It would be helpful to to provide the client with a summary of the OP's experience and training, specifically stating how long the mentor has been training the OP and what that training consisted of.

This sounds like a solvable problem with more communication

 

[CB27]

All great advice thank you all. I realize it's an uphill battle and most clients have been fine. It was just my mind was just blown that a trainee could be approved by that one client and I couldn't. Wasn't looking for anymore privledges than their trainee program allows once they said I needed a couple more years.

Actually I'll say it was TSI (or I guess as of today Amrock) in case anyone had similar experiences with them.