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REO Appraisal & Foreclosure Appraisal

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Don't forget the repairs on the REO addendum.We do it all , Contractor , Marketing and a Little looking into the crystal ball.Since we know what the value is "As is" and "As repaired" no problem in estimating the cost of repairs.
HUD REO appraisals have no REO addendum , however , they do require a different type of repair (MPR) than other REO appraisals.Go get em..
 
Moh,
Since I have usually been on the receiving end of the assistance from this forum, I'm a little hesitant to provide to attempt to provide any guidance. However, in this case I have read enough to understand the discussion and want to help.
I have been following and I might add agreeing with your logic about lost value over time in a declinging market. But thenl Marcia drove home her "odd to think about exposure time leading up to effective date" point. And a light went on.
If I'm right then when we look at listings and sales on the effective date of our report and apply 1-90 days for short and 90-180 market we are really looking what has happened not what might happen in the future.
In a declining market normally the longer it takes to sell a property the less the sales price but the REO addendum calls for as is and as repaired values at time of the effective date of the appraisal. At the effective date we are analyzing historical data available and market values of similar properties should be converging toward similar sales prices.
Am I understanding this correctly?
 
Greg,
I'm FHA approved but have little experience. When you say a HUD REO requires a different type of repaire...what does the MPR mean. Can you refer me to the source document? Handbook, mortgage letter etc.
Thanks so much.
 
My question should probably go on another thread rather than get this one off track. Sorry.
 
STOP thinking of the Form!!! this is WHY ALL Software programs put in BLANK PAGES called Addendums so that the Appraiser can EPLAIN the Market Area. These Full length Legal size paper, are NOT for "These are best Comps available". Market has made a drastic change, time to S#!+ can your Canned statements & write what is actually happening.
 
Think of it this way....

Bank wants to know what they can "dump" the property for, either in "as-is" or "as-repaired" condition. Usually less than 90 days.

OR

Bank wants to know what they could sell the property for if it was on the market for a reason (typical) period of time.

This is for Joe....

Shouldn't we do interior photos on everything? Shouldn't we show any damage or required repairs? Isn't it proper consider forecasting IN EVERY assignment? Now we might not make a forecasting adjustment but we should be looking at the market trends, especially in appraisals of REO properties.
 
Mike,

Fannie Mae requires the following in terms of photos for a standard Interior Inspection assignment:

"XI, 204.01: Appraisals Based on Interior and Exterior Property Inspections (11/01/05)


"• Clear, descriptive photographs (either in black and white or color) that show the front, back, and a street scene of the subject property, and that are appropriately identified. (Photographs must be originals that are produced either by photography or electronic imaging.)

"• Clear, descriptive photographs (either in black and white or color) that show the front of each comparable sale and that are appropriately identified. (We do not require photographs of comparable rentals and listings.) Generally, photographs should be originals that are produced by photography or electronic imaging; however, copies of photographs from a multiple listing service or from the appraiser’s files are acceptable if they are clear and descriptive."



As such interior photographs and photographs of deferred maintenance, outbuildings, pools, etc., are not required as a 'standard' however I will agree that many lenders do require them, and I would also agree that it's a good practice to take them for future reference even if they are not made part of the final report.

Awareness and reporting of current local market trends is the responsibility of every appraiser. This is also highlighted in the Selling Guide as follows:

"XI, 403.03: Trend of Property Values, Demand/Supply, and Marketing Time (01/31/06)

"The appraiser must report on the primary indicators of market condition for properties in the subject neighborhood by noting the trend of property values (“increasing,” “stable,” or “declining”), the supply of properties in the subject neighborhood (“shortage,” “in-balance,” or “over-supply”), and the marketing time for properties (“under three months,” “three to six months,” or “over six months”) as of the effective date of the appraisal. We also expect the appraiser to describe the reasons when the trend of property values is declining, supply is an over-supply, or marketing time is over six months.

"The appraiser’s analysis of a property must take into consideration all factors that affect value. Because we purchase mortgages in all markets, this is particularly important for market areas that are experiencing significant fluctuations in property values (including sub-markets for particular types of housing within the market area). Therefore, lenders must take appropriate steps to ensure that the appraisers they use analyze listings and contract sales as well as closed or settled sales, and use the most recent and similar sales available as part of the sales comparison approach, with particular attention to sales or financing concessions in markets that are experiencing either declining property values, an over-supply of properties, or marketing times over six months. "
 
Moh,

In a declining market normally the longer it takes to sell a property the less the sales price but the REO addendum calls for as is and as repaired values at time of the effective date of the appraisal. At the effective date we are analyzing historical data available and market values of similar properties should be converging toward similar sales prices.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Ken,
I agree that the REO addendum calls for as is and as repaired values as of the effective date of the appraisal but it also calls for those two values to be based on two different exposure times: Short exposure time in exchange for lower than market value and typical exposure time in exchange for market value. Do you see the connection between the value and the exposure time?
If you say that the value as of the effective date of appraisal based on short exposure time of 1-90 days is $200,000 and the market value of the property as of the effective date of appraisal based on longer exposure time of 90-180 days is $22000, you have established those two different values based on short and long exposure times although both of them are as of the effective date of appraisal.
The extend of exposure time makes sense in a stable and increasing market but not in declining market.
The short exposure time (1-90 days) translate into lower than market value and the typical exposure time for market value (90-180 days) translates into market value. Why? Because the short exposure time gets less people to see that property, less open house, less advertising and less exposure. The typical exposure time gets more people to see that property, more open house, more advertising. If the market at the end of your typical exposure time, say next 6 month, is lower than the market at the time of your appraisal; the extend of exposure time will bring more people to that property but it doesn't translate into higher value or not even the value that you concluded at the time of your appraisal because the market at the end of your 6 month of exposure time is lower than what it was at the time of your appraisal and people know it and are not going to buy it at that value no matter how many times you show it to them or how many buyers you bring to the property. The market is lower and buyers want lower value now than what it was the value of that property at the time of your appraisal
However, if the market were stable or increasing, this scenario would be completely different.
 
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Moh,

I think we all agree with what you're saying, the difference is in the perspective of how this knowledge is used in coming up with opinions of value. What I'm saying is the appraiser should not put himself or herself in the position of being a fortune teller, doing math problems based on the probable reduced number of potential buyers viewing the home during a shorter exposure cycle times the forecasted percent depreciation, etc.

Instead research should be done looking at recent, confirmable historical data, comparing "quick sale" transfers to standard market transfers, and using this verifiable data to establish market supported opinions related to the subject.

Obviously, as with any appraisal problem, this becomes more challenging when good data is scarce.
 
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