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Since that is a common thing, you should be adding a charge in your initial bid that compensates for the time that is going to be asked of you from so many clients.
That won't work my friend because of the fast & Cheap blind bidding system that res appraisers are forced to participate in. The only way a res appraiser can throw off the AMC chains of bondage is to seek out via marketing actual direct type of clients This is an ongoing effort to constantly sell your services.

AMC's have a salesman that goes out and sells the AMC company to any and all lenders, Where they don't do well is selling the AMC to the many other users of appraisers./appraisal services
 
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So lets get back to what happened. as I understand it AMC ask the appraiser to explain why he used the comps he did rather than the other appraisers comps. I would have ask the AMC what was the reason the other appraiser used the comps he used and didn't use the comps I used?

I get the reasoning why they order two appraisals on High Value houses.

I suspect the value conclusions were different. I also suspect the OP's market value opinion was lower than the other appraisers opinion.

maybe there is more to this story. Cause the ROV came up.
 
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This is common in ERC appraisals, too. It can be enlightening to see what your competitors are up to, and does provide an opportunity to assess and defend your own processes. I recently did an ERC appraisal and apparently was the third appraiser, along with at least 2 brokers, to opine an anticipated selling price (in this case, everyone was to suggest the price the subject would sell for within 120 days from the effective date). The initial response to my report was that I was outside their 5% differential (as I understand it, if the first two are more than 5% apart, a third appraisal is commissioned). Among the differences they noted was in GLA, and I did find where I had missed that my software had classified a porch as GLA. After correcting that (less than a 1% change in value), I was still about 15% above the high end of the crowd. The same questions were asked of the other appraisers, and among the questions I got were about several sales that were not in my report.

Most of those were in my work file, having been adjusted to the subject and fully considered. Others were simply irrelevant. During the course of the conversation, I asked the client for grids from the other appraisals (so I could explain what they did wrong). I only got snippets for the comps in question, but that was telling. The subject was odd in that it had about 20% of its GLA in a bonus room. I treated it as GLA as the stairway to the area was from the intersection of the foyer, living room, and kitchen dining areas. The glaring difference between their appraisals and mine was in GLA adjustments. My adjustment was $90/sf. Theirs were either $77 and $61 if they gave the large bonus room no value, or $26/sf if they included the bonus room in the GLA. That feature is not common in the broader market area, but is much more prevalent in one subdivision where other aspects of homes (age, quality, location, etc) are much less variable than in the broader market area. When I developed another model from just sales in that subdivision, it suggested GLA including bonus room area added $100/sf, but when separated, GLA added $106/sf and bonus room area added $69/sf, or about 65% of GLA value.

For I think the first time ever, I provided the regression results for those scenarios so they could see the basis for my statements, and told them even if I conceded that the subject bonus room should be devalued by 35%, my value would only drop by about 2%. Somewhere in all of that, the relocation company and transferee agreed to list it for a little over 97% of my estimate, and they had an offer in 11 days in a market where many sales are contracted after nearly 90 days on the market. It didn't pay well, but it was an interesting and enjoyable exercise that confirmed I don't have glaring flaws in my process.
 
That won't work
well, you can respond with a canned comment, "I examined the sales provided and determined that they are not the most recent, proximate and similar properties comparable to the subject." Not that that will stop the demands; or alternatively, you can simply accept low pay and uncompensated post-report work as part of the job. It's a choice.
 
In short, there is nothing wrong or inappropriate about the request. How you respond is a business decision. You can ignore the request or you can address it and explain why you chose the comps you chose rather than those you were asked to comment on. The choice is yours, and both choices have their own possible consequences.
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  1. Withholding or threatening to withhold future business from, or demoting or terminating or threatening to demote or terminate an Independent Party;
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Just got my first ROV in over a year. List price $340K, Contract price $355K, adjusted values using 5 comps, 348K-$353,500. OMV $353K. Buyer agreed to provide up to $10K in appraisal gap coverage and they send an ROV. Took about 5 minutes to shoot it down since both sales they provided would have adjusted slightly below OMV
 
I believe all the hoopla in this thread is because of the way the AMC has presented the request.

Instead of presenting the sales to the OP in a typical ROV manner...... the request comes off as a "review the other appraiser's appraisal". Which is chapping everyone's a*s.
 
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