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There is a difference between precision and accuracy. In their overzealous attempt to be precise, an appraiser can end up being highly inaccurate ( wrong) in their value conclusions. This si a danger that comes from overly aggressive reviewers asking appraisers to "prove," in detail, their adjustments. In fear of this, appraisers default to cost, rote formulas and statistics because look here is the chart of cost figures to prove it. However, the conclusion as a contributory value does not reflect what the market is actually doing. That is not accurate because accurate means truthful as well, and a precise amount that does not reflect the truth of the market is misleading.

Though precise can be used as part of a definition of accuracy, it is also concerned with truth, care, a standard and more -than precision alone.

If it costs $65000 cost estimate to make repairs and the appraiser puts down $65,000 as the adjustment, it is precise but may not be accurate. If the buyer for that level of repairs is a flipper paying cash, the amount they actually pay related to repair is $100,000, because the amount includes their expected profit and having to market the house .

And the best comps for it of course, would be similar repair condition comps not needing an adjustment -
 

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So you prefer to simply guess? I mean paired sales are a joke unless you have a number of them. You don't believe in Multi-linear regression. So PFA works for you? Further, experience has taught me that there is a heck of a lot of difference in the discount for major repairs that might take weeks or months than a 2 day roofing job. The cost is likely far closer than you will get hunting that unicorn "matched pairs" - identical homes - one with a new roof being installed that sold or one that needs that roof. How many homes have escrowed the cost to replace a roof or other item as a fixed COST that is about the actual COST to make the repair? I bet far more than pulling a number out your heinie.
JGrant is being silly. Like on liquidation or REO and subject needs tons of repairs, she can't go find 3 or 6 recent comps that match the subject in matched paired analysis. That's why the REO addendum has a cost list of estimates. Flippers do the same thing on buying houses for resale. They use cost estimates.
 
They do add for entrepreneurial incentive just like a builder building a new house. Your typical homebuyer goes through that process as well if they are buying a house and want to update it to live in.
 
They do add for entrepreneurial incentive just like a builder building a new house. Your typical homebuyer goes through that process as well if they are buying a house and want to update it to live in.
Who are "they"?
A cost approach that adds in EP , for the hundredth time, is not the topic, the topic is using straight cost as an adjustment in the SCA.
AND a typical homebuyer looking to update and live in it is often not the buyer for a house needing major repair or completion!!!!
 
Who are "they"?
A cost approach that adds in EP , for the hundredth time, is not the topic, the topic is using straight cost as an adjustment in the SCA.
AND a typical homebuyer looking to update and live in it is often not the buyer for a house needing major repair or completion!!!!
Nobody said that. Wake up this morning. Your acting like it can't support an adjustment in sales comp approach between subject and comp. That is not true.

Buyer and seller motivations are saying cost estimates motivate them.
 
Nobody said that. Wake up this morning. Your acting like it can't support an adjustment in sales comp approach between subject and comp. That is not true.

Buyer and seller motivations are saying cost estimates motivate them.
Now yo are changing what you said. I always said a cost can support an adjustment.

The topic is using straight cost as the adjustment ( even when it does not reflect the market reaction
 
Now yo are changing what you said. I always said a cost can support an adjustment.

The topic is using straight cost as the adjustment ( even when it does not reflect the market reaction
Nobody said that. Cost estimates can be used both quantitative and qualitative in sales comp approach.
 
Think about seller concessions. Wake up girl.

Depreciated cost estimates is proper term.
 
But most of the time the competent ones don't;
The use of the available tools - income and cost as well as sales is the mark of a competent appraiser. I had some 4 plexes to appraise. 1 had no garage, just a parking lot. 1 4plex had a carport that the cars could pull under. And the third had a garage (1 car) for each unit. Rents were 800, $875 and $950 respectively. What was the adjustment for the comparables? Well...if you calculated the GRM at 150 from the comps, looks to me like a garage was worth $15,000 over one where you parked in a parking lot. And, $7,500 for a carport. Impossible you say? Can't use income and cost???
They do add for entrepreneurial incentive
They think more in terms of contingency than EI. They expect to find undisclosed issues, especially on an REO. So they are weighing both risk and reward. But every flipper uses their own metric to decide when to pull the trigger.
The topic is using straight cost as the adjustment
The topic is why JG cannot fathom how the textbooks would think an adjustment can be done by "Cost Related Analysis". Sales are the know all, end all of everything. Costs and income should be ignored on everything. Again I challenge you to pull up any set of sales - but make it easy - only 6 comps. Now how do you extract the value of say a fireplace. OK. First you have to equalize 6 comps on every other level. You adjust ages and sizes, before you can do the calculus on the fireplace. But let's assume you have sales in a new cookie cutter subdivision. 1 has a fireplace. Waz it worf?

You might have the sale of $245,000, $241,000, $254,000, $244,000, $239,000, and $257,000. The $254k sale has a fireplace. What is the adjustment? Is it $7k, $13k, $10k, $15k, or a negative $3,000??? Do we average? kick out low and high and average? Pick the least one? Tell me that the cost isn't more "accurate" than the paired sales... And to complicate matters what happens when 2 out of the 6 has a fireplace? Most appraisers will only cherry pick the pairs that "work" for their own pre-concieved ideas. So if they think it should be a $5,000 adjustment, they just pick the pairs that supports that.

This is why paired sales are not particularly accurate. MLR OTOH might give you a number as well - but is that going to be accurate or simply an average of the indicated values? What method is the most accurate and repeatable? And it has to be the cost related method. Nothing else can do it.

Isolated paired sales are worse than inaccurate. They are misleading.
1-2 1-3 1-4 1-5 1-6 2-3 2-4 2-5 2-6 3 -4 3-5 3-6 4-5 4-6 5-6
That is 15 pairs, if you are trying to "pair" a common item such as SF, age, etc. You end up with some kind of range of value. But a unique item? Your data are complicated by the fact that any given sale might have some amount of uncertainty in the final number you may not be aware of. What is the typical variation in price in a cookie cutter subdivision built by one builder - say Horton.

I am analyzing some sales of duplexes now. I appraised 3 of my sales for an estate back early in the year- 3 sales bought new in 2002 when this small duplex subdivision was developed. These would be the first sale since the developer built them. And 2 of them sold for about what I appraised it for. 1 was 2 story, 1 was 1 story. But the third also 2 story? They sold it for $45,000 less than I appraised it... (all three very similar in age, quality, etc.) In fact, that duplex got $25 a month more rents than the others as they had one new renter and he was paying a higher rent. Why did that duplex sell for less? I have no idea. My guess is that one guy - who bought two of them - was wanting the income, perhaps intended to raise the rents (they were low) but couldn't buy all three. And the last sold less for no apparent reason. In fact, it was listed at $25k+ over my appraisal, stayed on the market 2 months and they sold for $70k under the list price...It was on the market the longest. Last to sell. Did the seller just grow weary of dealing with the estate, collecting rents, and wanted shed of it? The property manager who contracted me to value the estate had no clue and, in fact, was surprised when the heirs put them up for sale as they had said they were going to run them like their dad had - i.e.- let the management company place renters, etc. and they get paid as the owner is a passive owner.

My point is - 'accuracy' is measured terms of a shotgun, not a Biathlon rifle. These "market" numbers are imprecise and therefore "cost" is often a far more precise and accurate both number.
Depreciated cost estimates is proper term.
The Appraisal of Real Estate called in "Cost Related Analysis".

So again what is the "natural" variation in sales? Below are homes UC currently, sold in the past year or less by Horton. Many exactly the same size, all are stock plans, but not the same price... and you expect to extract a more reasonable contributory value from them than simple cost related adjustment? There are 4 newest ones sold on the left - 8k difference - 3% variation...you cannot support extraction nor paired sales any better than you can depreciated costs.
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