Soil Types

[Stone]

I don't disagree with Willie in general...he knows his market. It just isn't necessarily the case up here.

Markets are different.

 

[farmguy]

I'm still getting used to this forum thing. I will say there are a few of you I agree with pretty regular it seems like, and there a a few others that man if I hated what I did as much as they did I think I would find something else to do.

 

[Stone]

I'm still getting used to this forum thing. I will say there are a few of you I agree with pretty regular it seems like, and there a a few others that man if I hated what I did as much as they did I think I would find something else to do.

(my emphasis)

Boy, isn't that the case. And, it seems like those that really hate the business post a lot.

Your post was fine, I was just clarifying mine for anyone else reading.

 

[Michigan CG]

In Iowa/Illinois the soil types (and productivity of them) is VERY important. You can have a field with a potential of 220 bushels an acre and drive 30 miles away and that field might only produce 100 bushels. Vast price differences.

Appraising without knowing the productivity or CSR is suicide.

 

[Carl Martin]

I think the online program should agree with the printed soil survey unless the county has been resurveyed since publication. Has anyone got any pointers on how to make the AOI more accurate for irregular parcels?
I can use a GIS program to do irregular parcels, but it is not nearly as convenient as the online program. And remember, in my county the NRCS soil survey was done by one soil technician, one farmer and one out of work electrician.

 

[Stone]

I think the online program should agree with the printed soil survey unless the county has been resurveyed since publication. Has anyone got any pointers on how to make the AOI more accurate for irregular parcels?
I can use a GIS program to do irregular parcels, but it is not nearly as convenient as the online program. And remember, in my county the NRCS soil survey was done by one soil technician, one farmer and one out of work electrician.

My system won't be any more exact than yours. Usually I have it drawn on an aierial photo, then use that as a guide. I typically can get within an acre or two on a large tract, which is fine for my needs.

A couple differences from the books that I've noticed include soils with very small percentages listed and a re-coding or re-naming of some of the soil types. On the first count, I would guess that these soils were originally mapped but not included in the books due to the minimum quantity in an area. That is just conjecture on my part, though. As to the second, I assume (FWIW) that the soils have been basically re-labeled in a more standardized format. Some of the older county surveys had different names and codes for the soils than the more recent ones.

Also, in WI, there were a few counties that never did have soils books printed. In particular a few along Lake Superior only had their soil surveys finished in the last couple of years.

 

[farmguy]

Tim is the CSR what I have heard of as a corn equivelancy index, or some such name. It doesn't work in any areas that I work, but I have heard that it is very much the main driver of value in much of the midwest.

 

[stefan olafson]

I use a service called AgriData, it's pretty reasonable and a fantastic resource.

http://www.agridatainc.com/

Give it a try!

 

[Willie]

I don't disagree with Willie in general...he knows his market. It just isn't necessarily the case up here.

Markets are different.

Corn won't grow a tal on Rocky Top, soil's too Rocky by fer, that's why all the folks on Rocky Top, get thar corn from a jar.

Actually, what I'm saying based on my very local market. We have three distinct regions. One in West TN, which would be more similar to what Stone is saying I would venture to guess. There is tons of fine row crop lands there. Interesting side note.... West and Middle Tennessee were hard core Confederates because of their better soils. East Tennessee had a lot of Union sympathizers because of their crap soils. They didn't have a dog in the fight. Cotton doesn't grow there.

Farm guy is right about just being careful to make sure if we are making soil comparisions, that the market is doing so as well.

Interesting thread.

 

[Stone]

Corn won't grow a tal on Rocky Top, soil's too Rocky by fer, that's why all the folks on Rocky Top, get thar corn from a jar.

Actually, what I'm saying based on my very local market. We have three distinct regions. One in West TN, which would be more similar to what Stone is saying I would venture to guess. There is tons of fine row crop lands there. Interesting side note.... West and Middle Tennessee were hard core Confederates because of their better soils. East Tennessee had a lot of Union sympathizers because of their crap soils. They didn't have a dog in the fight. Cotton doesn't grow there.

Farm guy is right about just being careful to make sure if we are making soil comparisions, that the market is doing so as well.

Interesting thread.

Once two strangers climbed 'ol Rocky Top, lookin' for a moonshine still...

I'd not heard that analysis of the Confederate/Union support before. Very interesting.