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STR Debate Finally Settled?

Property manager if there is one, owner if you can contact them. If I am doing a typical 1007 in my areas. MLS rentals are very limited. Always have to contact management companies or agent I know that work the investor market. I just posted the form for fyi. Form or no form. Getting str rental data takes the same due diligence
Rentals are a pain. Listing with a realtor and having the listing up on the MLS are far and few in between these days.

After I'm finished remodeling, I'm going to look into this site to see if it would be worth its cost.

 
BLS has loved monthly rent for 50-years. One of the reason inflation stats are less than accurate is because 'housing' inflation is based on equivalent monthly rental and significantly lags the price increases in houses. And Zillow loves to zestimate a house's monthly rent.
 
Will any of those AMC chiefs who were on podcasts over the last year telling us how we needed to do short term rentals on a 1007 be reprimanded in anyway? I know the GSE have five favorite AMC’s that they give preferential treatment to, and a few of them were pushing these pretty hard. I’ll hold my breath for the reprimands.
 
Will any of those AMC chiefs who were on podcasts over the last year telling us how we needed to do short term rentals on a 1007 be reprimanded in anyway? I know the GSE have five favorite AMC’s that they give preferential treatment to, and a few of them were pushing these pretty hard. I’ll hold my breath for the reprimands.
The GSEs should audit EVERY file with a 1007 from those AMCs.
 
i thought from my lender's request that they didn't want single family short term rental on the 1007. they wanted an estimated monthly rent. although that short term can be more profitable, how can the lender be sure that the rent amount will be that amount each month. now i can understand the shore & mountain vacations spots, etc, rentals, but around here the shore rentals are only for a short number of months, not the whole year. the short term rent sched would seem like a lot of work and wouldn't you need to have 12 months to see the cash flow, or lack of, to cover then mortgage payment. i'm a lender, i get nervous.
 
In light of these differences, it may make the most sense to think of an STR as a going concern and the income as business income rather than rental income. But, under our current policy, the decision of how to categorize the STR income is up to the lender. If the lender chooses to treat STR income as business income, then Selling Guide provisions for underwriting business income would apply, and the lender would not need a 1007. Conversely, if the lender chooses to treat it as rental income for qualifying purposes, then the lender must obtain Form 1007 where specified by the Selling Guide.
 
FANNIE has spoken regarding 1007/STR - you cannot use Form 1007 for estimating nightly rental $$$, but the lender may order a 1007 - all clear now? No? Welcome to the club - (This doesn't change our policy that we will NEVER do short-term rentals.)

Excerpt from just-released July Update:

"Short-term rentals and Form 1007​


Recently, Fannie Mae has received many questions about the Single-Family Comparable Rent Schedule (Form 1007). It enables the appraiser to document the estimation of monthly market rent for the subject property when completing an appraisal on a single-family investment property for conventional lending. It can also be used for condominium investment properties.


The Selling Guide allows lenders to use rental income for qualifying purposes under certain circumstances. Form 1007 is only required when rental income is used to qualify, and the subject is a one-unit investment property. The lender may also use the 1007 as the basis for reporting gross monthly rent at loan delivery. (See “Reporting of Gross Monthly Rent” in B3-3.1-08, Rental Income.) For refinances, the 1007 is used in combination with either tax returns or lease agreements, while for purchases, the 1007 may be used in combination with lease agreements or as a stand-alone.


One question we often hear is whether the 1007 should be used for short-term rentals (STRs). The Selling Guide is silent on whether an STR should be considered rental income. STRs differ from longer-term leases in several ways. The most obvious is the length of the agreement: STRs are typically executed on a nightly basis, similar to a hotel, while residential leases are typically structured on a monthly basis. Also, STRs typically involve not only usage of the real property but also personal property, such as furniture, fixtures, and equipment (FFE). STRs are typically executed with a terms and conditions agreement, not a lease agreement. The STR may include additional services such as food or housekeeping.

In light of these differences, it may make the most sense to think of an STR as a going concern and the income as business income rather than rental income. But, under our current policy, the decision of how to categorize the STR income is up to the lender. If the lender chooses to treat STR income as business income, then Selling Guide provisions for underwriting business income would apply, and the lender would not need a 1007. Conversely, if the lender chooses to treat it as rental income for qualifying purposes, then the lender must obtain Form 1007 where specified by the Selling Guide.

The 1007 was not designed for appraising single-family properties that are used as STRs. Specifically, the 1007 calls for the “Indicated Monthly Market Rent.” This means the appraiser needs to analyze competing properties leased on a monthly basis. It would be incorrect for the appraiser to use STR comparables and then multiply the nightly STR fee by 30 to estimate a monthly rent. Such an approach would fail to account for FFE, other services, vacancy rates, and business expenses.

In summary, while a lender may choose to request a 1007 for an appraisal of an STR, in fulfilling the assignment the appraiser must use rental comparables with monthly lease rates to support the “Indicated Monthly Market Rent.” Alternative definitions and methodologies are not acceptable. Form 1007 cannot be used to estimate the nightly fee for an STR."
 
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Where would the verifiable information be garnered from for that click forms Str form?

The MLS only lists "monthly" sfrs, condos, duplexes to four plexus. Airbnb & Vrbo lists and books the properties.... are these the sources one would use to input comparables?

I mean, you could garner all the information about the high and low seasons, the number of vacant days per month, and the expenses from the subject. But what about the comps?
What would an AMC pay for those Services?? Nowhere near my fee, I'll pass
 
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