This Won't end Well for Germany

[Charles West]

I understand that, though I would much prefer that "setting the record straight" be worked out with research and proof that can convince courts that it was. But the 2022 elections will happen long before the record is corrected, and my opinion is that the time, money and energy available be committed to solidifying those elections. I'd much rather see the records of of some of the influencial Dem members of the House and Senate be aired to the public so that they can be defeated.

Understand, but we are going to have to walk and chew gum at the same time because these events represent real-time relevations that's going to leave some butts in cots on the taxpayer's dime and It's something we have no control over. The left wing media needs their butts kick as well.

 

[Mike Ault]

I think you're completely wrong about North Korea. McArthur was a moron to try and march to the Chinese border and think the Chinese wouldn't get involved. A much more intelligent strategy would be for the U.N. forces to invade up to where North Korea is at its thinnest-from just north of Pyongyang to Hamhung. It would have been a defensible line, and everything worth having is south of the line. Everything north of it is mountainous s**t impossible to fight in. After that, we could have dictated a peace in terms that favored us and S. Korea. Instead McArthur instigated an unnecessary war with China that got a lot of U.S. troops killed.

Although you make a good point Douglas McArthur fought wars to win, not "police actions". Here was his plan. –

In his 1964 book Gen. Douglas MacArthur (Gold Medal Books, Greenwich, Conn.), Bob Considine writes, “MacArthur’s final plan for winning the Korean War was outlined to this reporter in the course of an interview in 1954 on his 74th birthday. … ” “Of all the campaigns in my life—20 major ones to be exact—the one I felt the most sure of was the one I was deprived of waging properly. I could have won the war in Korea in a maximum of 10 days, once the campaign was under way, and with considerably fewer casualties than were suffered during the so-called truce period. It would have altered the course of history.

The Nuclear Solution​

“The enemy’s air would first have been taken out. I would have dropped between 30 to 50 tactical atomic bombs on his air bases and other depots strung across the neck of Manchuria from just across the Yalu at Antung (northwest tip of Korea) to the neighborhood of Hunchun (northeast tip of Korea near the border of the USSR).

“That many bombs would have more than done the job! Dropped under the cover of darkness, when his planes were in for the night, they would have destroyed his air force on the ground, wiped out his maintenance and his airmen. …

“With the destruction of the enemy’s air power, I would then have called upon a half million of Chiang Kai-shek’s troops, sweetened by two U.S. Marine divisions. These would have been formed into two amphibious forces. One, totaling four-fifths of my strength and led by one of the Marine divisions, would have landed at Antung and proceeded eastward along the road that parallels the Yalu.

A Wall Of Man and Fire Power​

“The other force, led by the other Marine division, would have landed simultaneously at Unggi or Najin in the east, hit the same river road, and moved very quickly westward. … [The] forces could have joined in two days, forming a wall of manpower and firepower across the entire northern border of Korea. …

“Now, with the northern border sealed, the 8th Army, spread roughly along the 38th Parallel, would then have put pressure on the enemy from the South. The joined amphibious forces would press down from the North. Nothing in the way of supplies or reinforcements could have moved across the Yalu.

“North Korea, holding not less than one million to 1 1/2 million of the enemy, could not have sustained him. It had been picked clean. The enemy commander would have been starved out within 10 days after the landings. I suggest now he would have sued for peace immediately after learning his air had been taken out and we had spread across his supply routes.

Sowing A Sea Of Radioactive Cobalt​

“You may ask what would have prevented the enemy’s reinforcements massing and crossing the Yalu in great strength, as they had before. It was my plan as our amphibious forces moved South to spread behind us—from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea—a belt of radioactive cobalt. It could have been spread from wagons, carts, trucks and planes. It is not an expensive material.

“It has an active life of between 60 and 120 years. For at least 60 years there could have been no land invasion of Korea from the North. The enemy could not have marched across that radiated collar I proposed to put across Korea’s neck.

“Russia? It makes me laugh when I recall the fears of the Truman-Acheson-Marshall-Bradley-General Staff group that Russia would commit its armies to a war in China’s behalf at the end of an endless one-track railroad [the trans-Siberian, the only means of resupply once the airforce was destroyed] to a peninsular background that led only to the sea. Russia could not have engaged us. She would not have fought for China. She is already unhappy and uncertain over the colossus she has encouraged.”

MacArthur At Least Got Russia Right​

In this latter view, the General was certainly correct, as revelations from the both the inner circles of Stalin in Moscow and Mao in Beijing have testified.

Continuing his interview, Considine quoted MacArthur as stating, “The truce we entered into—that stupendous blunder of refusing to win when we could have won—has given China the breathing time she needed. Primitive airfields in Manchuria have been transformed into modern installations with 10,000-foot runways. China had only one concentrated arms-producing area before Truman relieved me.

“Now she has built or is in the process of building four more. In 50 years [i.e., by 2004], if she can develop her plane-building facilities, China will be one of the world’s top military powers [a prescient prediction from 1954].”

Douglas MacArthur's Plan to Win The Korean War

Douglas MacArthur proposed to use atomic bombs to contain China and ultimately win the Korean War.

warfarehistorynetwork.com

 

[Mike Ault]

Rs need to focus on the mid-term elections, on local offices, and on continuing to expose the indoctrination of our children by arrogant “educators” and unresponsive local school boards.

I am curious to know if more states are organizing behind the scenes to pass legislation like "this" in response to the concerns voiced above –

"No public school of this state, as defined pursuant to Section 1-106 of Title 70 of the Oklahoma Statutes, shall employ or contract with a person that promotes positions in the classroom or at any function of the public school that is in opposition to closely held religious beliefs of students," Standridge's proposal reads.

Oklahoma bill would allow teachers to be sued $10k for teaching anything that contradicts students' religious beliefs

Senate Bill (SB) 1470 was proposed by Senator Rob Standridge and is dubbed the "Students' Religious Belief Protection Act."

www.5newsonline.com

 

[Peter LeQuire]

MacArthu was right about a lot of things. But, he made some grievous tactical errors during WWII, and screwed up when he went public with his disagreement with President Truman. But as has been mentioned, his push for Japan's recovery was insightful.

 

[IlliniApp]

Although you make a good point Douglas McArthur fought wars to win, not "police actions". Here was his plan. –

In his 1964 book Gen. Douglas MacArthur (Gold Medal Books, Greenwich, Conn.), Bob Considine writes, “MacArthur’s final plan for winning the Korean War was outlined to this reporter in the course of an interview in 1954 on his 74th birthday. … ” “Of all the campaigns in my life—20 major ones to be exact—the one I felt the most sure of was the one I was deprived of waging properly. I could have won the war in Korea in a maximum of 10 days, once the campaign was under way, and with considerably fewer casualties than were suffered during the so-called truce period. It would have altered the course of history.

The Nuclear Solution​

“The enemy’s air would first have been taken out. I would have dropped between 30 to 50 tactical atomic bombs on his air bases and other depots strung across the neck of Manchuria from just across the Yalu at Antung (northwest tip of Korea) to the neighborhood of Hunchun (northeast tip of Korea near the border of the USSR).

“That many bombs would have more than done the job! Dropped under the cover of darkness, when his planes were in for the night, they would have destroyed his air force on the ground, wiped out his maintenance and his airmen. …

“With the destruction of the enemy’s air power, I would then have called upon a half million of Chiang Kai-shek’s troops, sweetened by two U.S. Marine divisions. These would have been formed into two amphibious forces. One, totaling four-fifths of my strength and led by one of the Marine divisions, would have landed at Antung and proceeded eastward along the road that parallels the Yalu.

A Wall Of Man and Fire Power​

“The other force, led by the other Marine division, would have landed simultaneously at Unggi or Najin in the east, hit the same river road, and moved very quickly westward. … [The] forces could have joined in two days, forming a wall of manpower and firepower across the entire northern border of Korea. …

“Now, with the northern border sealed, the 8th Army, spread roughly along the 38th Parallel, would then have put pressure on the enemy from the South. The joined amphibious forces would press down from the North. Nothing in the way of supplies or reinforcements could have moved across the Yalu.

“North Korea, holding not less than one million to 1 1/2 million of the enemy, could not have sustained him. It had been picked clean. The enemy commander would have been starved out within 10 days after the landings. I suggest now he would have sued for peace immediately after learning his air had been taken out and we had spread across his supply routes.

Sowing A Sea Of Radioactive Cobalt​

“You may ask what would have prevented the enemy’s reinforcements massing and crossing the Yalu in great strength, as they had before. It was my plan as our amphibious forces moved South to spread behind us—from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea—a belt of radioactive cobalt. It could have been spread from wagons, carts, trucks and planes. It is not an expensive material.

“It has an active life of between 60 and 120 years. For at least 60 years there could have been no land invasion of Korea from the North. The enemy could not have marched across that radiated collar I proposed to put across Korea’s neck.

“Russia? It makes me laugh when I recall the fears of the Truman-Acheson-Marshall-Bradley-General Staff group that Russia would commit its armies to a war in China’s behalf at the end of an endless one-track railroad [the trans-Siberian, the only means of resupply once the airforce was destroyed] to a peninsular background that led only to the sea. Russia could not have engaged us. She would not have fought for China. She is already unhappy and uncertain over the colossus she has encouraged.”

MacArthur At Least Got Russia Right​

In this latter view, the General was certainly correct, as revelations from the both the inner circles of Stalin in Moscow and Mao in Beijing have testified.

Continuing his interview, Considine quoted MacArthur as stating, “The truce we entered into—that stupendous blunder of refusing to win when we could have won—has given China the breathing time she needed. Primitive airfields in Manchuria have been transformed into modern installations with 10,000-foot runways. China had only one concentrated arms-producing area before Truman relieved me.

“Now she has built or is in the process of building four more. In 50 years [i.e., by 2004], if she can develop her plane-building facilities, China will be one of the world’s top military powers [a prescient prediction from 1954].”

Douglas MacArthur's Plan to Win The Korean War

Douglas MacArthur proposed to use atomic bombs to contain China and ultimately win the Korean War.

warfarehistorynetwork.com

Mike, those are the ravings of a madman. Drop nuclear weapons near the borders of Russia and China? Wonder what would have happened then. War with China and Russia. There was no public will to fight such a war. A radioactive sea of cobalt? Crazy talk. South Korea didn't want to destroy the north-they wanted to be unified. Turning North Korea into a parking lot would have been immoral and would have instigated a war with Russia and China. McArthur was an idiot in Korea-when he didn't get approval for this insane plan, that didn't mean he had to incite the massive Chinese attack that he did. There were other options to pursue than what he did.

 

[IlliniApp]

I am curious to know if more states are organizing behind the scenes to pass legislation like "this" in response to the concerns voiced above –

"No public school of this state, as defined pursuant to Section 1-106 of Title 70 of the Oklahoma Statutes, shall employ or contract with a person that promotes positions in the classroom or at any function of the public school that is in opposition to closely held religious beliefs of students," Standridge's proposal reads.

Oklahoma bill would allow teachers to be sued $10k for teaching anything that contradicts students' religious beliefs

Senate Bill (SB) 1470 was proposed by Senator Rob Standridge and is dubbed the "Students' Religious Belief Protection Act."

www.5newsonline.com

If the news report is accurate, it sounds like an idiotic bill. Hard to see how it sees the light of day.

 

[Peter LeQuire]

I am curious to know if more states are organizing behind the scenes to pass legislation like "this" in response to the concerns voiced above –

"No public school of this state, as defined pursuant to Section 1-106 of Title 70 of the Oklahoma Statutes, shall employ or contract with a person that promotes positions in the classroom or at any function of the public school that is in opposition to closely held religious beliefs of students," Standridge's proposal reads.

Oklahoma bill would allow teachers to be sued $10k for teaching anything that contradicts students' religious beliefs

Senate Bill (SB) 1470 was proposed by Senator Rob Standridge and is dubbed the "Students' Religious Belief Protection Act."

www.5newsonline.com

I don't know enough about public education in Oklahoma to hazard a guess. But I can probably find them a monkey 'roun' ' chere they can borrow.

 

[Mike Ault]

Mike, those are the ravings of a madman. Drop nuclear weapons near the borders of Russia and China? Wonder what would have happened then. War with China and Russia. There was no public will to fight such a war. A radioactive sea of cobalt? Crazy talk. South Korea didn't want to destroy the north-they wanted to be unified. Turning North Korea into a parking lot would have been immoral and would have instigated a war with Russia and China. McArthur was an idiot in Korea-when he didn't get approval for this insane plan, that didn't mean he had to incite the massive Chinese attack that he did. There were other options to pursue than what he did.

The Chinese did not attack us until we committed troops above the 38th Parallel, they warned us against that repeatedly however MacArthur refused to believe the intelligence as it was not gathered by "his people" but rather by "Washington sources". MacArthur had a group of sycophants that he had surrounded himself with during World War II who knew better than to question his judgment. He was threatening to drop atomic weapons on Chinese airbases on the other side of the Yalu River, not North Korea. Although I agree that it was certainly a "Dr. Strangelove response" and absolutely immoral it would not have led to an atomic war with Russia. MacArthur was correct regarding that and here was his reasoning –

"Russia? It makes me laugh when I recall the fears of the Truman-Acheson-Marshall-Bradley-General Staff group that Russia would commit its armies to a war in China’s behalf at the end of an endless one-track railroad [the trans-Siberian, the only means of resupply once the airforce was destroyed] to a peninsular background that led only to the sea. Russia could not have engaged us. She would not have fought for China. She is already unhappy and uncertain over the colossus she has encouraged.”

 

[Mike Ault]

I don't know enough about public education in Oklahoma to hazard a guess. But I can probably find them a monkey 'roun' ' chere they can borrow.

I believe the verdict of the "Scopes trial" was returned long ago…

 

[Mike Ault]

If the news report is accurate, it sounds like an idiotic bill. Hard to see how it sees the light of day.

The "$10K Abortion Ban Bill" it was modeled after sounded like something that would be passed by a bunch of idiots as well. But they did.