This Won't end Well for Germany

[Big ole Boy]

Bring the thunder, Mike. Bring the electric circuit to me.

 

[Big ole Boy]

I feel a cool breeze. You feel it too?

 

[Big ole Boy]

With chimes?

 

[Big ole Boy]

Sunny and 54 degrees in the shade for my beer not to welt.

 

[glenn walker]

What is your definition of a "failed leader" then if you don't mind me asking? Would DJT fit that description? It seems you have a pretty broad concept of "failed leadership".

Donald Trump was a failed leader because he was not a Politician and he did not understand how both parties only goal is to keep their positions in Senate and Congress. None have any loyalty to their Country or their people and they live and die by polls. DJT was a test case and he broke the barriers where no other person could have before. There can be nothing but failed leadership in a Country that has a divided people who share few similar goals or ideologies. As of now we are just in a stage of rotating every 4 years from Team Red to Team Blue. Both Teams are equal failures but its going to take time before the teams realize they have to come out of the closet and show their real cards.

 

[Mike Ault]

Bring the thunder, Mike. Bring the electric circuit to me.

"Sigh". I thought I was doing well. I even found you a snippet of your dreams with "nice boobies" that time. I'll keep working on it…

 

[Mike Ault]

As of now we are just in a stage of rotating every 4 years from Team Red to Team Blue. Both Teams are equal failures but its going to take time before the teams realize they have to come out of the closet and show their real cards.

I believe the red team showed its "real cards" on January 6.

 

[glenn walker]

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Donald Trump was a failed leader because he was not a Politician and he did not understand how both parties only goal is to keep their positions in Senate and Congress. None have any loyalty to their Country or their people and they live and die by polls. DJT was a test case and he broke the barriers where no other person could have before. There can be nothing but failed leadership in a Country that has a divided people who share few similar goals or ideologies. As of now we are just in a stage of rotating every 4 years from Team Red to Team Blue. Both Teams are equal failures but its going to take time before the teams realize they have to come out of the closet and show their real cards.

I believe the red team showed its "real cards" on January 6.

I believe the red team showed its "real cards" on January 6.

No those people are not Team Red Team Those were Neo- Nationalists on January-6 who came to celebrate what they believed was going to be an -election over turned by team Reds Party. Those people are not trained insurrectionists and just emotional goof balls. A real insurrection has to involve Military and Law Enforcement and its Leaders will not be a Republican or Democrats. As both parties would be disbanded.

 

[Mike Ault]

J




No those people are not Team Red Team Those were Neo- Nationalists on January-6 who came to celebrate what they believed was going to be an -election over turned by team Reds Party. Those people are not trained insurrectionists and just emotional goof balls. A real insurrection has to involve Military and Law Enforcement and its Leaders will not be a Republican or Democrats. As both parties would be disbanded.

The rioters were not the real insurrectionists. The calculating people behind the scenes generating fraudulent electors to be counted were the real insurrectionists, the rioters were just cover to add extra pressure to the day. The real insurrectionistists include DJT, Guliani & Mark Meadows. And everybody on this forum who kept insisting that January 6th was not an insurrection attempt, despite what their lying eyes told them. Once people accept responsibility for their actions and denounce everybody involved they might be welcome to participate in our nations political system again.

 

[IlliniApp]

So now that we have cleared up the "fringe group aspect" of your argument let's delve into this one. Government is supposed to do what's best for its citizens, deciding what is best is where the debate lies. Is it best to go around hollering "America First" when you discuss the subject of military alliances? How many allies do you think you will end up with after a few years of that? "Moderate Dog Mattis" was correct when he pointed that exceedingly poor messaging out. As far as globalism is concerned I was arguing against it while Reagan and Thatcher were busy dismantling the unions for the sake of conservative purity, once that was accomplished there was no effective opposition left to argue against it. I hate trade agreements designed to enrich capital while impoverishing labor but we lost most of our industrial capacity long ago so rebuilding that for the sake of national security is going to take some time. And if we have to elect fascists to get that accomplished then it's not worth it (apparently they are reluctant to relinquish power at the appropriate time). Let the "anybody that disagrees with Trumps positions is a fool" tirade begin…

The authors said the Trump administration was undermining an international order that is to America's advantage by devaluing the role allies and international institutions play in securing American interests.

Former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis says Biden should toss all of Trump's 'America First' policies

"We hope they will quickly revise the national security strategy to eliminate 'America First' from its contents," Mattis and three others wrote.

www.businessinsider.com

First of all, you didn't dispense with the fringe group aspect of my argument at all. And why is everything a referendum on Trump? I don't want him to run again. All I've said is that it would be absolutely madness for us to get into war with another nuclear power over Ukraine, which is not an ally of ours, whose borders were drawn by Stalin (I think), has a myriad of its own internal issues, and has a significant portion of its population that would like to be part of Russia. Your only argument is "but what if Russia invades Poland." They haven't invaded Ukraine for goodness sakes. I also think its misguided to think that NATO plays as important a role as it did fifty years ago.