Today's FREAB Meeting

[Pamela Crowley (Florida)]

Dale,

:lol:

You did a pretty good job of explaining it. Yep, I do enjoy watching those that deserve it get it. The 'witch hunt' in Florida wants the real 'witches'.

Statistics from 2001:

Complaints Received: 251
Complaints Dismissed: 59
Complaints Sent to Field: 192
Citations Issued: 15
Notices of Noncompliance Issued: 13

The one that had 11+/- trainees definately deserved it. I've had 2 'trainees' that had previously trained under him and I couldn't retrain them to do an appraisal properly. The only training they had was how to do it wrong! They absolutely could not understand searching for comps to match the subject rather than searching for comps to match the value wanted on the order and thought I was doing it wrong.

The older cuban/spanish gentlemen were there for the second time on a second offense.

You explained the time share 'appraiser' quite well and I won't say anymore.

Regarding the first respondent that was duped by the trainee: It appears that the case of the trainee along with a mortgage broker and possibly others are also involved in fraud that is being prosecuted criminally. This respondent/supervisory appraiser apparently simply signed the report without verifying any of the data. He also stated that he was questioned by law enforcement and was cleared of being involved in the fraud. BUT, a supervisory appraiser, when signing an appraisal report, is taking full responsibility for it. He was fined as any supervisor should be, would be and will be, at least in the state of Florida. The board did take the circumstances into consideration and were much lighter on him than they could have been or would have been under other circumstances. Signing as the supervisor carries the full weight of doing the appraisal yourself!

There was another trainee there that was brought before the board on a case where her supervisor was the perpitrator and was training her to do things the wrong ways. She was very good at standing up for herself, has a new supervisor that is training her properly and stated just how bad it is for trainees when under a bad supervisor. She was sent on her way with the stipulation that she write an essay on the differences between the two supervisors. That essay will likely be used as an example to others that have trainees under them. I'm hoping to see her soon on this forum since I gave her my card with this forum's web address. If she lived near me, I would take her as a trainee. With what she has been through, she will probably become a very good appraiser.

I'm not going to go into the reasons for the applicants with a past record having to stand in front of the board. If nothing else, it shows them what can happen when they don't do their job correctly.

Good to meet you! Got a good chuckle from your post.

Pam

 

[Dan/Fla]

This was my 1st meeting I ever attended, I will admit that I put it off as long as I could, it was one of those things well I would like to go, but also I wanted to be like the kid in school at the back of the class and not bring attention to myself, like I read this forum for a few months before I ever even posted on it. But like this forum, going to the meeting last Tuesday was one of the best decisions I ever made to finally attend. I learned more in those 8+ hours than I ever did in class getting and maintaining my certification. I know for sure now that the board is on the side of the Honest Appraiser, and the sentence they had down are fair and just. I saw yes one appraiser lost his license for 2 years, for you in other areas of the country, Knowing what I know about this appraiser the sentence was too light, He was my 1st Supervisor, I left hoping that he was not the norm; and he is not, though he did make me learn what I would never want to be like. Then I also saw a Reg. Appraiser admit he made 3,500 reports in one year, on time-shares, without a Supervisor, though he tried to call the report something other than appraisal, though the word appraisal was on 1st page. I am still trying to comprehend 3,500 In One Year? But then a lady came before the board her crime appeared to be she was associated with Wrong supervisor and signed a report, in which the supervisor made it (fit) has since left and found another Supervisor which is training her the correct way of being an appraiser. Her sentence was to attend 1 more board meeting and write and essay on the differences between a Good and bad Supervisor and no Fine. I stated these to show the board is not out to get us. They are Fair and make the punishment, fit the crime.

If you out there are thinking that it is boring and a pain to sit there 8 hours like I did before I went you are WRONG. There are plenty of laughs, jokes and entertainment.

I will not give my thoughts about everybody going at least once every two years, to maintain their license. (Oops sorry I already did)

Frank you gave a great comment, on what the Supervisor is really saying when they are signing the right side of the Report, could you please take the time sometime to put that on this forum or better put it in newsletter all Florida appraisers get from time to time.

No I am not trying to Butter Frank up with any of my commits.

I will be going back to other meetings No I am not going to say I will go to them all.

I know that the Florida Appraiser Board is not the only good one in the country. I am sure that if you took the time you would find that your State board is as good. One thing I will promise at least I did not see one member even look like they might bite. But more than that if they believe from the facts that they have before them, they will not back down either.
I beleive that the members on the board are looking for the same thing I hope each and everyone of use are looking for a time when, all that is left is honest fair appraisers. Sure we all all human and will all make mistakes, but that is all it will be is a mistake. and not a attemp to make if happen.

Question have you ever noticed that the ones that do the dishonest work, accept lower fees, Hummm if the board can get rid of more dishonest appraisers We will all have a better name and the fees might go up, humm does not appear to have a downside.

Dan