Trainee

[Zoe]

"The Holy spirit is neutral gender. The Holy Spirit has no gender."

You just opened up a can of kick ***....
From conservative forumites....

I can handle it. Don't worry about it.

Do you remember the gender of Jesus's earthly mother?

Who watched him crucified? What gender was first to his grave the next morning? What gender saw the stone rolled away and talked to an angel?

What gender saw Jesus resurrected first?

 

[Zoe]

"The Holy spirit is neutral gender. The Holy Spirit has no gender."

You just opened up a can of kick ***....
From conservative forumites....

I know you don't believe in Jesus. I may get you eventually.

 

[ucbruin]

I know you don't believe in Jesus. I may get you eventually.

If God can't....
How can you....
It's God plan that I'm atheist....
GOD'S in control....

 

[chad hampton]

BTW, the MAGA boys are looking at possibly 20 years in prison. That conviction opened pandoras box I think. They won't be the last convicted.

It’s cool, 30% of the public supportted the revolution, 30% supported the British and 30% didn’t care who won. I know what group I’d have been in.

 

[LordofTexas]

I had three a year ago. I paid them only 15% of the fee. After 8 months, I was down to one. I told him to get a different job as I just didn't have the work to support him. With the Fed's rates, I don't see our workload increasing anytime soon either.

 

[shrubberyvaluation]

Still pathetic. Even if a person, desperate for an opportunity, offers to be exploited, that does not mean we should take advantage of them. The right thing to do would be to pay him or her back pay for all the reports they did ( but you won't) and pay them going forward for any work they do.

Karma catches up with people and that is a fact. I had several trainees in the past and always paid them from day one and always paid fairly. They never tried to poach any clients after they left and in fact the opposite occurred. One went on to become a staff appraiser at a bank and would feed me overflow work, and the other one referred me to the occasional assignment.

Who says they are being taken advantage of? You don't know their arrangement. I can think of times where someone in a mill is paid but taken advantage of because they are not really being trained. This person decided to take a trainee even though they were not looking for one and the trainee decided the experience was worth it. They are not bound to this supervisor and maybe now they have marketable skills either to negotiate for pay or find someone else now that they will not need their hand held as much.

 

[George Hatch]

AMC are allowed to hire trainees and send them to do property inspections on their own, but a self employed small business appraiser can’t. Another example of how the system is rigged. Time to burn it down.

I’ve never had a trainee, but I would have over the years had there been a level playing field.

Corporations want all the money. That’s something I was told early in in this career. If there is a field where small businesses are making money, give it time, the large corporations will find you. This profession is a good example.

I was paid 40% of the fee to start. Ended at 75%. It was a good set up for both me and my old mentor. I realize those days are gone. That’s too bad.

Meanwhile in real life.....

The GSEs will accept a "did not inspect" countersignature from a supervising appraiser. They always have. They literally hardwired their forms to accommodate that alternative. It's your clients who won't accept it. Some of them probably still don't accept appraisals performed by SL appraisers, either. The AMCs have zero to do with that choice.

Not to mention that the property inspections can apparently still be done by anyone, albeit possibly subject to a background check. Even you. Or your former supervisor. Or your trainee. Or your dog. Your license isn't the only qualification that they accept.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Even if a person, desperate for an opportunity, offers to be exploited, that does not mean we should take advantage of them

So all the schools should be paying the students to attend? We didn't invent this ridiculous system of FORCING appraisers to get exacting HOURS of experience instead of YEARS as is the case in most professions. So they keep mindless logs and each board chosen (3 in my state) report scrutinized. If a supervisor is signing off, then the trainee is less likely to be sanctioned over the errors than the super. So every trainee report exposes the supervisor to HUGE liability.

Then in my state as a supervisor, I have to take a class for supervisors or the trainee gets no credit for it. This only reduces the likelihood that the trainee can find multiple supervisors and does zero to "improve the profession" in my opinion. I usually paid trainees. But I had one offer to work for free to get the additional hours of commercial work necessary to get his own license (he was already a CR.) I simply turned the CR work to him and he kept the fee. But on commercial work, it was work I would and could do, I did attend inspection and review the report closely. And again, he only needed a couple hundred more hours credit.

With any trainee, if they could not inspect by themselves within 6 months, they aren't going to make it anyway. And if they can do the whole report and all I do is carefully scrutinize the report and sign off, I paid up to 80%. Depended upon the report, the client, etc. For secondary market work, I was more hands on. For simple evaluation-type work (minimalist reports) I often did no more than I had to. And I did a lot of inhouse reports on cheap common housing using simple non-lender reports.

 

[Zoe]

It is real risky having a trainee and giving them a 1099 like an independent contractor. If I were the OP, I would have them classified as an employee in today's world.

 

[chad hampton]

Meanwhile in real life.....

The GSEs will accept a "did not inspect" countersignature from a supervising appraiser. They always have. They literally hardwired their forms to accommodate that alternative. It's your clients who won't accept it. Some of them probably still don't accept appraisals performed by SL appraisers, either. The AMCs have zero to do with that choice.

Not to mention that the property inspections can apparently still be done by anyone, albeit possibly subject to a background check. Even you. Or your former supervisor. Or your trainee. Or your dog. Your license isn't the only qualification that they accept.

You and your buddies supported a system that allows a convicted felon to go into peoples homes under the guise that they are appraisers. At this point, people should be careful taking your advice