UAD & synthetic stucco

[Scott Kibler]

You have a localized stigma associated with EIFS due to past, widespread, improper installation techniques. This stigma is not present in all parts of the county. I don't think stigma is something you would address in the Q ratings. If not for the stigma, it sounds like the subject would be a solid Q3. If the home is of an age where improper installation is of great concern you should address it by making the appraisal subject to inspection by a qualified professional.

 

[Chad Blackley]

There ya go. Location makes a difference.

Maybe next time you'll consider that before questioning how I became a CG via PM. Thanks for reminding me why I rarely post here.

I'm still open to hear others opinons though.

 

[Bob Ipock]

There ya go. Location makes a difference.

I had no idea ss was used in cold climates.


EFI and Drivit were serious problems here some resulting in total tear downs of damaged homes.

 

[Chad Blackley]

You have a localized stigma associated with EIFS due to past, widespread, improper installation techniques. This stigma is not present in all parts of the county. I don't think stigma is something you would address in the Q ratings. If not for the stigma, it sounds like the subject would be a solid Q3. If the home is of an age where improper installation is of great concern you should address it by making the appraisal subject to inspection by a qualified professional.

Sadly, it really doesn't matter whether or not the install was done properly. The market perceives SS as a negative, regardless. You can expect a longer DOM and significantly less compensation. I like the idea of making it subject, but it doesn't change the fact the home is worth less than a brick counterpart due to a perceived (Q)uality issue.

 

[residentialguy]

Maybe next time you'll consider that before questioning how I became a CG via PM. Thanks for reminding me why I rarely post here.

Don't try to pawn this off on me. You didn't present this as a stigma issue. You presented it as a "what quality rating do you give a home with SS siding" and then you proceed to say a home with brick siding means the home has a rating of Q3. ...and my response was correct. You don't judge a book by it's cover. A brick home can be a Q1 - Q6 rated home.

And for the record, my PM was answering your PM. I certainly have no problem going on the open forum and asking a CG how a general and make a direct association of what quality the home is by the exterior....something I'd expect from a trainee

 

[Scott Kibler]

Sadly, it really doesn't matter whether or not the install was done properly. The market perceives SS as a negative, regardless. You can expect a longer DOM and significantly less compensation. I like the idea of making it subject, but it doesn't change the fact the home is worth less than a brick counterpart due to a perceived (Q)uality issue.

The fact that it is a perceived quality issue and not an actual quality issue would lead me to give it the otherwise higher quality rating and handle the stigma in another manner. Easy to handle stuff like this pre-UAD, eh?

 

[Bob Ipock]

Sadly, it really doesn't matter whether or not the install was done properly. The market perceives SS as a negative, regardless. You can expect a longer DOM and significantly less compensation. I like the idea of making it subject, but it doesn't change the fact the home is worth less than a brick counterpart due to a perceived (Q)uality issue.

Yes indeed. The perception has become the dominant factor. The stigma is there.......every stucco MLS listing mentions that it has been tested and cured.

Chad is correct. They sell for less and take longer to sell.......very easy to prove. I would say that is likely true in most of NC.

 

[residentialguy]

The fact that it is a perceived quality issue and not an actual quality issue would lead me to give it the otherwise higher quality rating and handle the stigma in another manner. Easy to handle stuff like this pre-UAD, eh?

Agree...adjust the stigma in one of the blank lines. If those lines are already filled with other moronic UAD issues, you could adjust it for functional obsolescence/stigma in the functional utility line or the energy efficient line. Not ideal, but what about the UAD is. :mellow:

 

[Ca Ar Independent]

Thank GOD we don't have much of that stuff out here. Is it a kind of surface coating that is sprayed on over the wood, rafters, walls, etc? If so I've seen it once. Is it an asbestos concern? Just wondering, since now that I've read this thread there I will most likely be appraising one next week!

 

[Chad Blackley]

Don't try to pawn this off on me. You didn't present this as a stigma issue. You presented it as a "what quality rating do you give a home with SS siding" and then you proceed to say a home with brick siding means the home has a rating of Q3. ...and my response was correct. You don't judge a book by it's cover. A brick home can be a Q1 - Q6 rated home.

And for the record, my PM was answering your PM. I certainly have no problem going on the open forum and asking a CG how a general and make a direct association of what quality the home is by the exterior....something I'd expect from a trainee

Actually, I told you it was market driven via PM.

The point I'm trying to get across to you has nothing to do with this specific issue. My point is, when people like yourself read something that goes against your conventional wisdom, your natural response is to question my licensure, and by the default the NCAB and SCAB. It never even occurred to you to ask me the logic behind my question or god forbid googling it. It's a big turn off. I'm sure you will feel the need to get the last word, but the issue is closed for me and would much rather let it go at this point.