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USPAP Standard 1-3(b) and Standard 2-2 (a)(xii) question

Yeah. It is either as is, vacant for HBU, or conversion. But they ask if what exists is financially feasible and asks if what exists is physically possible.
Physically possible is obviously a no brainer for "existing" but it is also a nominally viable question for "as proposed" which is also referenced on that form.

"Feasible" just refers to adding to the whole. Do these improvements add to the value of the whole or not?

Adding a 1200sf SFR to a lot zoned for 2 units can add to the value of the vacant lot (and be feasible) without coming anywhere near being the most profitable use for the site (built out with 2 of them). Assuming market adequate market demand for such.
 
Physically possible is obviously a no brainer for "existing" but it is also a nominally viable question for "as proposed" which is also referenced on that form.

"Feasible" just refers to adding to the whole. Do these improvements add to the value of the whole or not?

Adding a 1200sf SFR to a lot zoned for 2 units can add to the value of the vacant lot (and be feasible) without coming anywhere near being the most profitable use for the site (built out with 2 of them). Assuming market adequate market demand for such.

As proposed means pretending it exists already. It is not asking if what is proposed is physically possible or financially feasible.
 
I think Denis used to say that if a renovation passes all four tests, then the HBU as improved would not be as-is. Does anybody recall him arguing this?
"Conversion bait" is another example. It's a 1000sf SFR on a 1/2ac lot that allows for residential and commercial use. Maybe the would-be office buyer or the contractor yard buyer will pay more for the "as is" than a home buyer on the next block over which only has SFR zoning.
 
As proposed means pretending it exists already. It is not asking if what is proposed is physically possible or financially feasible.
It is pretending but we like to elevate the semantics to "hypothetical". It's the same hypothesis in which the property is being valued in the SC. It doesn't currently exist but if it did would that be a feasible use?
 
I've been chipping on the GSEs to fix this for 20+ years, and IMO they have chosen an elegant solution which is entirely consistent with the underlying principles involved. If the "HBU/as is" isn't the existing use then the appraiser shouldn't even be appraising it in that "as is"
 
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I think the question should ask if there is a different use that passes the four test and in most cases it will be financially feasible that is answered no. Which is why the HBU as improved is as-is.
 
"Conversion bait" is another example. It's a 1000sf SFR on a 1/2ac lot that allows for residential and commercial use. Maybe the would-be office buyer or the contractor yard buyer will pay more for the "as is" than a home buyer on the next block over which only has SFR zoning.

I don't remember exactly but I think he was arguing that if a property is improved with SFR and a SFR renovation passes the four tests, then the HBU as improved is not as-is. It was a long time ago.
 
Highest and best use lack of comments is one of the big ones this state like to hit you over the head with a fine.
I mostly do big urban little row homes. So seen one, seen them all. I have a separate page with highest and best use comments, easier to find in my table of contents. Some of this was gotten from the appraiser's scope of work book and other brilliant thinking here by posters.

Site/Zoning/Use:

In order to determine the highest and best use of the real estate, I completed a survey of the market, noted supply and demand factors, and examined the feasibility of alternative uses. The appraisal problem did not warrant an intensive highest and best use study. Given the nature of the subject real estate, my conclusion of highest and best use was based on logic and observed evidence.

Zoning ordinances and deed restrictions (if applicable) were evaluated to determine legal uses. Economically feasible and physically possible uses of the subject property were considered as well. The subject property was evaluated "as if vacant" in order to determine uses that would produce some return and the one use (existing or alternate), that would produce the highest net return. Neighborhood development patterns and commercial potential were considered in all unincorporated areas. The highest and best use conclusion noted on this report was consistent with all of the above considered factors. The noted highest and best use is considered reasonably probable, legal, possible, appropriately supported, financially feasible, and results in the highest value."

Lot is typical of others nearby, similar homes on each side. Residential street views. Normal utility easements. No apparent adverse conditions present. The current restricted zoning of the subject, it's location, and locational influences make the highest and best use as single family, residential. Dwelling could be rebuilt back as is after a fire. The subject is a legally permissible use based on its current zoning. Also, the lot size, shape and land-to-building ratio allow the present structure and indicate a good utilization of the improvements. Based on current market conditions, the existing structure as a single family residence is its financially feasible and maximally productive use. The highest and best use, as if vacant, would be to construct a single family residence.


There are five residential single-family attached (RSA) district types. RSA districts are intended to accommodate attached and semi-detached houses on individual lots, but can be applied to a mix of housing types. RSA-1 requires the largest lot size and setbacks. These minimum lot and setback requirements decrease for RSA-3 and RSA-5 districts. The districts are also intended to provide a density transition between RSD districts and RM districts. The zoning code includes five RSA districts that are differentiated primarily on the basis of minimum lot sizes.


Because building codes change from time to time and tend to reflect higher standards and improved technology, an important feature of building codes is that they apply only to new construction and are not applied retroactively to existing buildings. The subject is an existing improvements and per the zoning ordinance does not have to meet the requirements of a new property. The subject was permitted and approved at the time of construction, the use has not changed, therefore the subject is considered to be conforming to the current zoning ordinance per the grandfather clause section of the current zoning ordinance.

Nonconforming Lots:
Minimum R zoning residential lot size in the city is 1,440 Sf. Lower Sf nonconforming lots are common throughout Philadelphia where the typical house predates zoning and maybe situated on a substandard size lot. This has no adverse affect on marketability or value. If the subject were destroyed, the improvement could be rebuilt to its current foot print (subject to city issuance of applicable building permits). Such subject sites were permitted and approved at the time of construction, the use has not changed, therefore the subject is considered to be conforming to the current zoning ordinance per the grandfather clause section of the current zoning ordinance.
 
For an improved property there are only 3 alternatives:
- worth more in the market as land
- worth more in the market in the existing use
- worth more to a buyer who will convert the existing use to another use (which will be a *really* rare outcome)

If the property is worth more than the land value in its existing use then the land buyer will simply choose a land sale as their alternative. Why pay more for S#1 (with a house) than for S#2( without the house)? We assume that as a group they won't pay more than their alternatives.
I agree with you overall, but I would just like to bring up a point - if the subject is worth more as a vacant lot, it still often is sold with the house standing but the price is for the land , with the new owner then demolishing the house ( or stripping to studs and building out as new ). So it is not th case of why pay more for the house than without the house, as much as the house is worth so little than th esale will be for land value or close to land value due to house now being an under improvement -

In other words, the present contributory value of the dwelling is so minor that a buyer would likely demolish it after purchase. In high-land value areas I cover, nice houses in average C4 and even C 3 liveable condition are demolished or stripped to studs and rebuilt.

That is where the cost approach shines. If the land value is one million and the depreciated cost of the house is 150k, even though the house is liveable, it could be a better use to buy it, demolish the house, build new, and sell the property for 2 million ( example, whatever the market will bear)
 
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They don't like your "highest and best use analysis", apparently. Discuss these principles in greater detail for them – "the most profitable, legally permissible, physically possible, and financially feasible use of a property".
Yep, said they read my statement but wanted more 'detail'.
 
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