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Vendor agreements with "hold harmless"

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I present the same questions I asked the last time someone posted this theory. If the AIReady conversion does not comply with Fannie's requirments for a 1004, then why has Fannie been accepting them for nearly a decade? If the forms produced by AIReady conversion were not acceptable, then why Fannie not said so? Instead, they have started mandating use of AIReady for certain assignments. That seems like prima facie evidence that it is acceptable to Fannie.

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Danny ~ Fannie? defending or using Fannie as an example of prima facia evidence as to what is/has been acceptable, as a credibility model to hang your hat on, now, in this housing crash and fraud crisis, has about as much credibility as defending FNC's new hold harmless vendor agreement. The Fanny is in the throes of the saving its of its own hinee. I would suggest that the revised "Port" agreement is a similar attempt.

.......Sorry...what has been presented as credible prima facie evidence seems to be a severe case of nostalgic paralysis.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/08/26/ap5360826.html
 
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I present the same questions I asked the last time someone posted this theory. If the AIReady conversion does not comply with Fannie's requirments for a 1004, then why has Fannie been accepting them for nearly a decade? If the forms produced by AIReady conversion were not acceptable, then why Fannie not said so? Instead, they have started mandating use of AIReady for certain assignments. That seems like prima facie evidence that it is acceptable to Fannie.
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http://news.yahoo.com/story/ap/2008...ie_stocks_4;_ylt=ArUI4N2XcUS_.qlkURQSK1Wb.HQA

Michael Shaw, formerly a senior vice president for credit risk oversight, is taking over as chief risk officer for Enrico Dallavecchia, who is also leaving the company "to pursue other opportunities in finance and risk management."
 
Ladies and gentlemen,
It is with great trepidation that I must inform all of you that the lenders have been as kept in the dark as much as appraisers have. I have now had NUMEROUS conversations with large lenders regarding "conversions" E & O insurance for appraisers, onerous and hidden agreements, full reports, etc. Let me tell you, the lenders understand the FNMA language about they are fully responsible to have full, complete, and unadulterated reports on hand to back up each and everly loan. These lenders are now coming to understand that they are NOT receiving the full reports. It has been publicly admitted, stated, declared, whatever term you must need to understand, that the conversion includes only the items that are deemed important by the AI software. That means that my certification page, any additional scope of work, table of contents, pictures, surveys, or anything else not deemed important by someone else is DELETED, not sent, or what ever cute term you wish to use. These incomplete reports then mean to me, anyway, that I have a co-author to my reports. A co-author that I do not believe in my heart that I hired, recognize, or even trust to look out after my best PROFESSIONAL interest. These lenders are just now recognizing they have not been told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Just ask WHO has been representing that "this is what the lenders want". I have yet to see a lender tell me they want an altered or changed report. Can you say SALES job?? They are now researching their liabilities as they are tied to OUR liabilities. Where will that go? Only the Good Lord knows. But questions are being asked.....hard questions.....particularly by lenders that DO NOT WANT to buy back deals based on INCOMPLETE reports. Be skeptical, be very skeptical of those that speak on behalf of lenders who really and actually remain conspicuously absent from this issue.
Also, I am amused by those that spout off about how great and holier than thou the GSEs are. We shall see how that plays out.......in Congress......with Federal regulators that are now feeling the heat from the kitchen.
We have yet to even scratch the surface of what has transpired.
 
Ladies and gentlemen,
It is with great trepidation that I must inform all of you that the lenders have been as kept in the dark as much as appraisers have. I have now had NUMEROUS conversations with large lenders regarding "conversions" E & O insurance for appraisers, onerous and hidden agreements, full reports, etc. Let me tell you, the lenders understand the FNMA language about they are fully responsible to have full, complete, and unadulterated reports on hand to back up each and everly loan. These lenders are now coming to understand that they are NOT receiving the full reports. It has been publicly admitted, stated, declared, whatever term you must need to understand, that the conversion includes only the items that are deemed important by the AI software. That means that my certification page, any additional scope of work, table of contents, pictures, surveys, or anything else not deemed important by someone else is DELETED, not sent, or what ever cute term you wish to use. These incomplete reports then mean to me, anyway, that I have a co-author to my reports. A co-author that I do not believe in my heart that I hired, recognize, or even trust to look out after my best PROFESSIONAL interest. These lenders are just now recognizing they have not been told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Just ask WHO has been representing that "this is what the lenders want". I have yet to see a lender tell me they want an altered or changed report. Can you say SALES job?? They are now researching their liabilities as they are tied to OUR liabilities. Where will that go? Only the Good Lord knows. But questions are being asked.....hard questions.....particularly by lenders that DO NOT WANT to buy back deals based on INCOMPLETE reports. Be skeptical, be very skeptical of those that speak on behalf of lenders who really and actually remain conspicuously absent from this issue.
Also, I am amused by those that spout off about how great and holier than thou the GSEs are. We shall see how that plays out.......in Congress......with Federal regulators that are now feeling the heat from the kitchen.
We have yet to even scratch the surface of what has transpired.

Never be fooled by that genteel southern demeanor and gentlemanly manner - this is one FINE Pirate, sailing a truly beautiful ship. Hats off to you, Mr. Turner. (Is there a Will Turner in your background, perhaps?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEqiHBP-g4&feature=related


That is most excellent news - and you have a large and growing crew.
 
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Never be fooled by that genteel southern demeanor and gentlemanly manner - this is one FINE Pirate, sailing a truly beautiful ship. Hats off to you, Mr. Turner. (Is there a Will Turner in your background, perhaps?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEqiHBP-g4&feature=related

That is most excellent news - and you have a large and growing crew.
Hey Pat,
This one’s for you personally. :icon_wink:Thanks..for all you’ve done, and continue to do on our behalf .......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXPDw_nh4KI


Bearslide ,this is for you ;) ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1gcvHBd7oc&feature=related

And For those that don’t quite understand ..the Pirate thing.........

The misconception people have about the freedom speech is that it was about them having the right to be pirates. That's not what it was about.

It was about being able to live how we wanted and not having to live in fear. The East India Trading Company wanted complete dominance over them. The pirates were the last true free men in that part of the world. As long as they lived, the EITC would never be in complete control.

For those, that do not approve, or think we should loose the Pirates thing.. ~ there is always this...
:fencing:

I'm always up for a good duel.
 
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Hey Pat,
This one’s for you personally. :icon_wink:Thanks..for all you’ve done, and continue to do on our behalf .......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXPDw_nh4KI


Bearslide ,this is for you ;) ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1gcvHBd7oc&feature=related

And For those that don’t quite understand ..the Pirate thing.........

The misconception people have about the freedom speech is that it was about them having the right to be pirates. That's not what it was about.

It was about being able to live how we wanted and not having to live in fear. The East India Trading Company wanted complete dominance over them. The pirates were the last true free men in that part of the world. As long as they lived, the EITC would never be in complete control.

For those, that do not approve, or think we should loose the Pirates thing.. ~ there is always this...
:fencing:

I'm always up for a good duel.

Aye, matey............funny thing, that........Pirates took their toll on the profits of the EITC and broke their shameful oppression, with help from unexpected quarters. Eventually, the EITC's usefulness to the Crown was lost and they no longer commanded favor. A worthy fight, me thinks............

For you, Jonsey...and for all who have boarded the ship named Public Trust. She is worth fighting for.........and a little rousing music just feeds the spirit ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es5PyEUF8WE&feature=related

We have help from unexpected quarters, so press the advantage, mateys.....lenders....talk to the lenders. One by one....they are listening.
 
"These lenders are now coming to understand that they are NOT receiving the full reports. It has been publicly admitted, stated, declared, whatever term you must need to understand, that the conversion includes only the items that are deemed important by the AI software."

Direct hit o'mainsail. The Hull is taking on water..........

Thanks Pat. Hopefully the above will be the Focus of the next Mitch Weiss article.
 
"These lenders are now coming to understand that they are NOT receiving the full reports. It has been publicly admitted, stated, declared, whatever term you must need to understand, that the conversion includes only the items that are deemed important by the AI software."

Direct hit o'mainsail. The Hull is taking on water..........

Thanks Pat. Hopefully the above will be the Focus of the next Mitch Weiss article.

Aye, ye fine Irish matey..............and she's taking it on fast..............man the cannon.........load 'em with everything ye have.................fill her with holes and blast off her mainmast :icon_mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es5PyEUF8WE&feature=related
 
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Not only are we dealing with the fact of the altered (edited) reports, we are being forced to sign an "agreement" that is far from an agreement. This document is onerous and does NOTHING to benefit the appraiser. It would be extremely interesting to see if that "agreement" were presented to a judge whether he would find that it is so one sided that it could not be enforced.

Liz S.
 
Gather round, shipmates. and listen closely

We are in a WAR...and war is hell. But when you fight that war on a tall ship with truth behind you, the war can be won.

This monumental battle has gone beyond a few shots over the bow. Ponder this, if you will.

1. The ports user agreement is the most onerous agreement anyone has ever seen........including the E & O carriers. Ask yourself why. Why should it be necessary for this huge corporation, handling thousands of appraisal reports, to design such an agreement? Why is it so all-inclusive? What is it that they feel must be protected? If there is nothing happening with reports, if they are being delivered to lenders as the appraisers wrote them, why this agreement?

LIA is asking those questions.......and lenders are starting to ask the same questions.

2. Numerous lenders are reacting to this agreement and the implications behind it. Numerous lenders are getting very uncomfortable with what may be headed their way. They are finally beginning to understand the foul bill of goods they have been sold.

3. Outsiders are starting to pay attention. Appraisal Scoop and Working RE both have articles that are being widely read. Reporters are starting to ask the right questions. I was interviewed yesterday, along with several others - I know this is fact.

Hard questions are being asked and a bright light is finally being shone into the dark corners of the port. The corners they would just as soon never see the light of day.

If there was ever a time for appraisers to act in unison, THIS IS IT. Our Irish Pirate, Mr. Kennedy, spoke the truth............the hull is taking on water. THIS IS IT...stand with your shipmates and fight. Your injuries will be minor, your booty great. Will you watch this battle unfold from the sidelines................or will you take up a weapon and join your crewmates? It matters not any personal bias or dislike or likes any of us may have of others. For the moment, put dislikes, fear and prejudice aside and join as one. The port has given us the very weapon we need - served it up to us on a silver platter. We HAVE help from unexpected quarters. More ships are sailing to us. We must push the advantage. It is time to turn every cannon we have on the port, fire at will........... and sink her.

You may say...but I have no weapon. YOU DO. You may say, but I will lose clients. I DOUBT IT. You may even say......but I don't use the port......why is this my fight? Think on what is ahead and the stakes to be won. The port is still selling her foul brew. The next lender to drink it may be one of YOUR clients.

Your weapons are simple......your phone, your fax, your email. Contact the lenders you know to be using the port......give them a copy of this shameful agreement AND the two letters from LIA posted earlier. Ask them if this is really what they intended when they signed on. Ask them to review the documents and decide for themselves if they want to be put in the posiition of buying back loans. Tell them that appraisers all over this country are refusing to sign this agreement. Tell them that what they will be left with is those appraisers who don't care to stay current, don't care about this profession, don't care about the quality of their reports and don't care what their client receives. If you fear telling them all that, then simply ask them to review the documents and decide for themselves. NUMBERS COUNT. Don't sit back and say "well, I know so and so already called Lender A. NO. YOU - and YOU - and YOU - call Lender A through Z. At least one very large lender is taking ACTION - BECAUSE they have been inundated with phone calls.

Second........call your E & O carrier. Many have contacted LIA. Don't let them carry this battle alone. If your carrier is different, get this agreement and LIA's statements to them. They see the foulness of this agreement - they can be our ally.

For those of you working for AMC's through the port. Call them. Give them a copy of the agreement and LIA's letters. Ask them if they are aware of the jeopardy they are placing themselves and their lender clients in. You may find yourselves pleasantly surprised. If a lender or AMC seems not interested, ask to speak to their Chief Compliance Officer or Manager. THEY will be interested.

For those working for Fannie............they too have been sold a bill of goods. Contact them.......get the agreement and LIA's letters in front of them. They are already under siege.............do they really want more??

If you need the letters or the agreement they are posted and I have them as well. PM if you need assistance.

IT IS TIME, MATEYS....sail with us and join the boarding of the opposition's ship. OUR ship is finer, faster and armed with truth. OUR ship is better manned to fight in a storm. Again.......help from unexpected quarters is on the way.......we are not fighting alone.....but WE MUST FIGHT TOGETHER. NOW. TODAY.

THINK, mateys..........we have this chance..........this ONE chance. Take it NOW. We CAN win this.......but every hand is needed on deck. HOIST THE COLORS.........TO ARMS!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-eDORp7IEg&feature=related
 
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