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Verbiage Advice Needed: 'Eaves"

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ZZGAMAZZ

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The MB client is concerned because the D.E.U. is requiring a roofing certification because I indicated that:

--ROOFING EAVES AND SOFT FACIA ARE DETERIORATED IN PLACES AND DISPLAY CHIPPED AND PEELING PRE-1978 PAINT THAT MIGHT CONTAIN LEAD;

I did not intend to imply that the roofing materials were faulty. I'm not sure if I used the wrong verbiage, if the DEU misunderstood my comments; or if partially deteriorated eaves would indeed warrant a roof cert.


p.s. this post is unrelated to my post concerning LBP that I posted a few moments ago.
 

Mark to market

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Sounds like someone misunderstood you.

Maybe it is because you included "roofing" as a descriptor. You might try boxed eave or exterior soffit or just plain eave next time you talk to this underwriter.
 

RSW

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You may just need to clarify what you meant to say in an addendum. This would most likely clear up the condition with the UW.
 

Tony V

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The MB client is concerned because the D.E.U. is requiring a roofing certification because I indicated that:

--The ROOFING EAVES AND SOFT FACIA ARE DETERIORATED IN PLACES AND DISPLAY CHIPPED AND PEELING paint. The paint appears to be PRE-1978 PAINT THAT (may) MIGHT CONTAIN LEAD;

I did not intend to imply that the roofing materials were faulty. I'm not sure if I used the wrong verbiage, if the DEU misunderstood my comments; or if partially deteriorated eaves would indeed warrant a roof cert.


p.s. this post is unrelated to my post concerning LBP that I posted a few moments ago.


Should have separated it..you may have tried to pack a bit to much into one sentence (possibly to ""fit"" in the space allowed on the form).
 

CURT VAN HOOSER

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The MB client is concerned because the D.E.U. is requiring a roofing certification because I indicated that:

--ROOFING EAVES AND SOFT FACIA ARE DETERIORATED IN PLACES AND DISPLAY CHIPPED AND PEELING PRE-1978 PAINT THAT MIGHT CONTAIN LEAD;

I did not intend to imply that the roofing materials were faulty. I'm not sure if I used the wrong verbiage, if the DEU misunderstood my comments; or if partially deteriorated eaves would indeed warrant a roof cert.


p.s. this post is unrelated to my post concerning LBP that I posted a few moments ago.

Actually, this statement does leave a lot to the imagination. Like, why are they deteriorating? Must be a leak and the saturation of the wood is causing the paint to peel.

How about;

The paint on the facia and soffit is peeling and chipped due to deferred maintenance which has resulted in deterioration of the wood work from weather exposure. Since the home was constructed pre-1978, the paint may contain lead and therefore pose an environmental hazard. This area needs to be inspected by someone qualified in LBP recognition and abatement.
 

ZZGAMAZZ

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Thanks all. In related questions:

1) should LBP issues be referred to a specialist via CB4?

2) who are specialists in LBP? Any painter, or a contractor, or ???
 

RSW

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If the dwelling is pre-Jan. 1, 1978 and the pant is chipping then you must call for a repair CB3.
 

Mike Boyd

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If the soffits and facia are deteriorating there is likely a problem with the roof. I think a roof inspection is needed. the LBP problem needs to be corrected. The roof inspection should include the facia and soffit. I think I would be specific as to the roofing, facia and soffit issues to make sure they were included in the inspection report.
 

CURT VAN HOOSER

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Here in the desert, facia and soffits deteriorate rapidly when the paint is not properly maintain and the woodwork is exposed to the elements. But, Mike is correct, there could be a problem. Only ZZ knows...what he saw. It sounded paint (or lack thereof) related to me...

Off to the beach...

Have a great weekend everyone!
 
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