Wannabe Trainee - Slightly Confused

[Michigan CG]

Is the person training you in possession of an appaisers license?

If you are not sure look him/her up at www.ASC.gov.

From what I understand about southern CA is that there is a significant over-supply of appraisers in that area and fees are very low.

If I am correct (I may be totally wrong) then the chances of finding someone who actually knows what they are doing who will hire you is very slim. If you do get hired by a CR in an area with LOW fees then that person will most likely not teach you correctly.

If you are working under a person who has a Certified General License and you get along with him/her you should keep doing it as most CR appraisers who are working in low fee areas would kill small farm animals for that opportunity.

If you are looking for a mentor and you tell them you are looking to get your 2,000 hours so you can get licensed/certified no one in their right mind will hire you. I will let you figure out why.

 

[Mike Kennedy]

I'm in the process of finding a certified appraiser to train under but am slightly confused by the stated requirements. Here's the sentence offered by the Appraisal Institute: "An Appraiser Trainee is subject to direct supervision by an appraiser who is certified in good standing, and may appraise those properties that his or her supervising appraiser is permitted to appraise."

Wuh? I've been shadowing a government acquisitions appraiser just to learn something while I've been searching for a licensed 1-4 unit residential appraiser. Because, of course, I've been assuming that I can only receive my 2,000 hours under a residential appraiser. I keep going back to the aforementioned sentence and am wondering if I have this all wrong. Can I train under the government acquisitions appraiser to get my hours? He is, after all, permitted to appraise the properties that he's been appraising.

It would be wonderful if I could work under him. Not only have I had no luck finding someone else to train under, but we are perfectly matched as supervisor/trainee. Input?

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[Mike Kennedy]

I'm in the process of finding a certified appraiser to train under but am slightly confused by the stated requirements. Here's the sentence offered by the Appraisal Institute: "An Appraiser Trainee is subject to direct supervision by an appraiser who is certified in good standing, and may appraise those properties that his or her supervising appraiser is permitted to appraise."

Wuh? I've been shadowing a government acquisitions appraiser just to learn something while I've been searching for a licensed 1-4 unit residential appraiser. Because, of course, I've been assuming that I can only receive my 2,000 hours under a residential appraiser. I keep going back to the aforementioned sentence and am wondering if I have this all wrong. Can I train under the government acquisitions appraiser to get my hours? He is, after all, permitted to appraise the properties that he's been appraising.

It would be wonderful if I could work under him. Not only have I had no luck finding someone else to train under, but we are perfectly matched as supervisor/trainee. Input?

IF your current Supervisor is a Cert. General - forget Residential - go for your Gen.Cert.

 

[leasedfee]

"An Appraiser Trainee is subject to direct supervision by an appraiser who is certified in good standing, and may appraise those properties that his or her supervising appraiser is permitted to appraise."

Remember USPAP's Competency Rule:

An appraiser must: (1) be competent to perform the assignment; (2) acquire the necessary competency to​

perform the assignment; or (3) decline or withdraw from the assignment. In all cases, the appraiser must
perform competently when completing the assignment.​

Can I train under the government acquisitions appraiser to get my hours?

Yes, you should be able to get your hours from this person. See your state board's rules. Certified General licenses will require some of your hours to be non-residential properties. However, if you spent all your time training under this person, your competency would be in what ever he or she trained you to do. Thus, before or after your time with them, you will want to gain residential hours so you have competency to appraise residences. We are not locked into one narrow geography or one narrow property type for the entirety of our careers. USPAP just doesn't want us to not be morons or "know it alls" about whatever it is we are appraising.

 

[George Hatch]

This is a licensing issue that is handled at the state level and per state regs, so the correct answer will vary some from one state to another.


There are lots of appraisers in California who are employed in various local, state and federal agencies who do not hold state licensing through the BREA. The last I heard, the BREA was working on ways to bring in the appraisers who work for the County Assessors and whose qualifications are regulated by the Board of Equalization, but that hadn't happened yet. Likewise, some of the Cal-Trans appraisers have BREA licenses and some don't. Most of those state employees who do have BREA licenses had obtained their licenses prior to going to work for the government.

 

[JTip]

ROW appraisers are not required to have a license as these are not federally related transactions in CA. I think you can use 400 hours but the best way to find out is to call the OREA.

I know it's an older post, but do you have a CA link supporting this?

I know that some states use 'waivers' or 'estimates of damage' forms; non-complex acquisitions that don't require an appraisal (up to $25k in PA, some states allow only $5k) can be completed by a 'person knowledgeable in real estate' and signed by the ROW Admin (different states, different variations of the rules).

Complex assignments that show change in H&BU or indirect damages, then an appraisal (completed by a certified CR or CG) must be completed and follow USPAP.

Waivers themselves cannot be counted for 'credit' as they are NOT appraisals (the form specifically says it is NOT an appraisal).

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/real_estate/archives/apprgd2.cfm

read and enjoy.....

 

[glenn walker]

Get off this forum and contact BREA in California and talk with them ..California like all states has different requirements***** If I am in Mississippi or Texas my advice is worth NOTHING !!! And even being in California this is something you need to find out by BREA... So pick up the phone and call them LOL