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What Alex Jones has to say about Bailout

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LA Woman

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Economic Collapse

Alternative media activist Alex Jones discussed the pending economic collapse and its relation to the New World Order. Several years ago, he warned that banks were planning to artificially implode the subprime mortgages, and now we've seen that come to pass.

A thousand trillion in fake assets were leveraged out by select international private banks, who used the "false paper" to buy up things such as media companies, defense contractors, shipping companies, and mines -- then the real assets were "fenced" into key infrastructure leaving the big brokerage firms and banks as hollow fronts ready to fall, Jones explained. The public is then told "you will be in a depression," unless you sign on for the bailout, he continued.

The proposed $700 billion federal bailout plan will actually end up costing $5 trillion, he declared.


This plan, if enacted, will lead to 20-40% inflation in the next 2-4 years.
 

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I see a problem with this theory. How can you have inflation with no available credit? If people don't have the money to spend then what will drive inflation?
I see deflation coming. Either way, inflation of deflation there will always be a real rate of return meaning interest rate +rate of inflation. So if you have your money in a stable bank you are safe even with 20% inflation because the rate will be 25%. If it is deflation with a 0 interest rate and 5% deflation, you get the same rate of return.

Who are the losers either way? Answer: The people who work for a living wage that are behind the curve running to keep up. Who elected the people that created this mess and are now the very same ones telling us how to get out of it? Answer: The people who work for a living wage.
 

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Send this idea to everyone But lets include all the other Bail Outs

Hi Pals,
> >
> > I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
> >
> > Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.
> >
> > To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
> >
> > Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
> >
> > So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.
> >
> > My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
> >
> > Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
> >
> > So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
> >
> > Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
> >
> > That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
> >
> > But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
> >
> > A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
> >
> > What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
> >
> > Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
> >
> > Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
> >
> > Put away money for college - it'll be there
> >
> > Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
> >
> > Buy a new car - create jobs
> >
> > Invest in the market - capital drives growth
> >
> > Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
> >
> > Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
> >
> > Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
> >
> > If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being proposed
> > by one of our candidates for President.
> > >
> > If we're goi ng to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
> >
> > As for AIG - liquidate it.
> >
> > Sell off its parts.
> >
> > Let American General go back to being American General.
> >
> > Sell off the real estate.
> >
> > Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
> >
> > Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
> >
> > Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'
> >
> > But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
> >
> > How do you spell Economic Boom?
> >
> > I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
> >
> > We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .
> >
> > And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
> >
> > Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
> >
> > Kindest personal regards,
> >
> > Birk
> >
> > T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic
> >
> > PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it's either good for a laugh or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!
 

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:rof::rof:

I love it, Karl!
 

Karl

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The Math is off BUT!! it's going to the Government & they never check math so doesn't matter.
 

Brisco58

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Send this idea to everyone But lets include all the other Bail Outs

Hi Pals,
> >
> > I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
> >
> > Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.
> >
> > To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
> >
> > Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
> >
> > So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.
> >
> > My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
> >
> > Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
> >
> > So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
> >
> > Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
> >
> > That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
> >
> > But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
> >
> > A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
> >
> > What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
> >
> > Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
> >
> > Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
> >
> > Put away money for college - it'll be there
> >
> > Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
> >
> > Buy a new car - create jobs
> >
> > Invest in the market - capital drives growth
> >
> > Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
> >
> > Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
> >
> > Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
> >
> > If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being proposed
> > by one of our candidates for President.
> > >
> > If we're goi ng to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
> >
> > As for AIG - liquidate it.
> >
> > Sell off its parts.
> >
> > Let American General go back to being American General.
> >
> > Sell off the real estate.
> >
> > Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
> >
> > Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
> >
> > Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'
> >
> > But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
> >
> > How do you spell Economic Boom?
> >
> > I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
> >
> > We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .
> >
> > And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
> >
> > Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
> >
> > Kindest personal regards,
> >
> > Birk
> >
> > T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic
> >
> > PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it's either good for a laugh or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!

I think you need to double check your math.
 

lauralee

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I take it Mr. Birkenmeier doesn't possess an HP calculator! I'm coming up with somewhat less. Oh well, its nice to dream!
 

Karl

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Like I already said the math is off The return per individual is 425+/- BUT when has the Government ever checked facts??!! & by the time the complete Bail out is calculated the end result of Mr Birkmeirer will actually be LOW to each family!!!
 

c w d

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I see a problem with this theory. How can you have inflation with no available credit? If people don't have the money to spend then what will drive inflation?
I see deflation coming. Either way, inflation of deflation there will always be a real rate of return meaning interest rate +rate of inflation. So if you have your money in a stable bank you are safe even with 20% inflation because the rate will be 25%. If it is deflation with a 0 interest rate and 5% deflation, you get the same rate of return.

Who are the losers either way? Answer: The people who work for a living wage that are behind the curve running to keep up. Who elected the people that created this mess and are now the very same ones telling us how to get out of it? Answer: The people who work for a living wage.

Oh really? No inflation? Then you better pass that theory off to some Great Depression scholars.

The reason for inflation during times of depression is because in order to pay debt the nation must have money. When there isn't significant production to provide the value in the money then the government prints more. It's like a pie. You can divide a pie as many times as you want but it's still one pie.
 

Restrain

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Prime example was Germany in the 30's. Screaming inflation while suffering from a major depression. Printed money so fast that they literally carried money in a wheelbarrow. More recently, in Brazil, the economy tanked and inflation got so bad that people literally spent the day in line to flip money against the dollar to shore up their bank accounts against inflation.
 
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