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What every appraiser should know

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Good post rijman. But I have a question. Why do we still have such bad appraisers out there? If they are getting reviewed and the reviews are revealing their bad work, why isn't something happening? Are the lenders paying any attention to the reviews?

We have a fellow in my area that the stories I have heard (extremely reliable, like from the loan officer(s)) are unreal. I know he has had to have been caught in the review process. I have seen some of his work and it's just make the number work. But yet he is turning out trainiees and appraisals like crazy. Why are these guys still getting away with it?

Obviously the loan officers like him because he makes the number and they get their commision. But what good is it to review his work and report him if they continue to use him? Seems like a waste of time to me.

Sorry. you just hit a raw nerve.
 
The vast majority of lenders will only remove an appraiser from their approved list for performing a number of appraisals found to be excessive in the review process. Most lenders do not send appraisal reports to the state licensing authority. Bad appraisers and their brokers just move on to new lenders. It is really up to the reviewer to turn the bad appraisals over to their state licensing authority and many reviewers do not want to take the time to get involved. The Office of Real Estate Appraisers in California, based on my past experience, really only wants the worst appraisals where the appraisal value can be easily proved inaccurate by a significant amount. They have so many reports to review and so little time they have to focus on the worst cases or the cases where the most people are being affected.

I see of lot of weak appraisal reports, which is why the report was forwarded from the UW for review in the first place. The truly fraudulent reports where the appraisal value is off by at least 10% using irrelevant data is really only a very small percentage of all the reviews we see.

Regards,
 
<span style='color:red'>Since I also do review work, I would like to add the following:

1. The appraiser should always receive a copy of the review even if the only comments are good ones. Peer review is the heart of improving the quality of one's work,

2. Reviewers should be required to submit fraudulent reports to the state licensing authority along with a copy of the review. Until we are willing to say "enough is enough" nothing will be done to clean up the industry and protect our livelyhood.

3. Review to determine the reasonableness of the value. Allow for minor differences of style, technique, and local custom. Don't consider yourself "God".

4. Work for changes in the Review proceedure that will allow the reviewer to talk with the appraiser. Coach, teach, guide that person so that they can be a better appraiser.

5. Lastly, show little...better yet, no mercy to those licensed or certified appraisers who sign off on bad work. Let them know that unless they choose to supervise their "trainees" you will be on them like white on rice!

Clearly the worst appraisals I have reviewed are done by Registered (Trainee) Appraisers who then have someone who should know better sign off the work and collect half or more of the fee. Appraisal pimps...in my not so humble opinion! :cry:
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Good advice, rijman.

In our kneck of the woods, it is not always possible to bracket nicely with just three comps. Four to Six comps are often necessary due to the extreme diversity of the housing stock and sparse population density in this Exurban market.

By the way, can we do anything to add "Exurban" to the official acceptable lexicon?

I am sick to death or reviewers at their desk in SoCal telling me where the line between Suburban and Rural is, when there is no such line in most of this market.
 
Pam:

That article looks very familiar. I think it was originally a post on this forum a few months ago.

If I remember correctly the writer was not received very well. In fact many posted that they were not impressed at all. I am surprised the author still thought it worthy to print.

I think the anonymous author is the type that gives Reviews a bad name. One that reports to know it all but obviously does not. I echo Mike Garrett’s sentiments above.
 
AMEN MIKE GARRET!! I agree with you 100%!

Makes me want to do reviews! :lol:

I have never seen a single review on anything I have done. I would like to see them. I did hear the results on one once from the Loan Officer but that was it.
 
I agree, the appraiser that did the original appraisal should be advised of rights and wrongs in the report.

The only time I know I was reviewed was on a manufactured modular home when I was in training. My mentor, (also an uncle) led me down a wrong path.

I was ripped for comparing this home to site built homes. I still remember those mistakes, and have not done them since. I thought I did it correctly, but have since the learned better.
I have also told my uncle to go fly a kite.
 
The vast majority of lenders will only remove an appraiser from their approved list for performing a number of appraisals found to be excessive in the review process. Most lenders do not send appraisal reports to the state licensing authority. Bad appraisers and their brokers just move on to new lenders. It is really up to the reviewer to turn the bad appraisals over to their state licensing authority and many reviewers do not want to take the time to get involved.

The state licensing board will be the first to tell you that they exist to protect the public and that appraisals turned in by other appraisers are only acts of competitive jealousy. I have turned in fraudulant reports but I have never questioned or discussed inflated values. I have high-lighted blatant USPAP violations, living areas over-stated by nearly 50%, appraisals on medical offices utilizing the URAR, and the origination appraiser's response to an underwriter where the appraiser writes "I don't care what similar properties sell for, I am citing market value!" and the offending appraisers are still operating with little if any discipline actions taken.

Does the lack of action on any of the above disturb any of ya'll? No? How about this... You ever find yourself sitting at a loan officer's desk and be asked "What are you (the other appraisers in town) going to do about this?" The loan officer pulled out several appraisals where one appraiser cited a property selling for (example) $100,000 and adjusted accordingly. The next apppraisal the same appraiser cited the sale at $110,000. The next appraisal at $115,000. The next appraisal at $112,000. If the sale's Gross/Net/Line Item adjustments approached busting out of FNMA guidelines the appraiser just adjusted the sale price to make the deal work and to make the report look good. Did the lender turn the appraisals in, or provide me with copies where I could turn them in? I'll give you one guess. As negative as my opinion is on AVM's maybe this is one avenue of fraudulant appraisal reporting which will be kept in check.

Folks, I'm not talking about honest or careless mistakes. I'm talking about intentional fraud. Until the big wind breaks nothing is going to change. When dealing with the secondary market, lenders merely pass all appraisals through the system to the investor and take their cut of the origination. When dealing with in-house lending, production is all that matters. Both the investors and banks have x% allocated for deals gone bad. Anything else is nothing more than unneccessary delays in closing a loan. The more I read Joe Sloan's tongue-in-cheek posts about the honest appraisers being 'losers' the more I believe that he is a prophet.

rijman, your posting in this forum suggests you are truely trying to help us grunts in the field and your posts are informative and appreciated. But, as a review appraiser, are you really concerned about the integrity of the profession and demonstrate such by turning in fraudulant appraisals? Or do you (as you stated) not want to take the time to get involved? Also, what is your honest opinion of why the lenders and investors are so reluctant to make formal complaints against repeat offenders?
 
Alan,

Due to the general animosity expressed toward reviewers on this forum, I am not surprised that the article, "The Care and Feeding of Your Review Appraiser" was not well received here. However, a forum is, according to Merriam-Webster's OnLine Dictionary:

Main Entry: fo·rum
Pronunciation: 'fOr-&m, 'for-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural forums also fo·ra /-&/
Etymology: Latin; akin to Latin foris outside, fores door -- more at DOOR
Date: 15th century
1 a : the marketplace or public place of an ancient Roman city forming the center of judicial and public business b : a public meeting place for open discussion c : a medium (as a newspaper) of open discussion or expression of ideas
2 : a judicial body or assembly : COURT
3 a : a public meeting or lecture involving audience discussion b : a program (as on radio or television) involving discussion of a problem usually by several authorities

 
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