What on earth is P&P - foundation

[Mr Rex]

Hmm. Sounds good. Except I need to know what's under the posts. :-( Hope it's not dirt. There was a reason why I always included a picture of the foundation.

In coastal areas piles (piers or posts with another name) are driven into the dirt until they meet enough resistance to withstand the loads. They may be wood, steel, or concrete. Think about the supports under a bridge over open water.:icon_idea:

Post and pier typically refers to post on top of "piers" which is in essence a poured concrete footer above or below grade. In CA, I suspect there would have to be all sorts of mechanical ties between the pier and posts as well as a bunch of bracing at the tops of the post or angled bracing to resist racking etc and to resist shaking the whole works off the posts of the posts off the piers in an earthquake.

 

[Smokey Bear]

Rex - any Victorians built in California (or anywhere) would have been built in the late 1800s, before the big 1906 earthquake. Most survived the big one, and the '89 in the Bay Area. Now, anything that's still on an old foundation has probably been shaken up enough to not make it through the next one. Eureka, where the subject is, suffered major earthquake damage in its big earthquake, and many Vics were damaged/lost. Check out this article, this earthquake is more recent, and guess what, the house was on post and pier. http://eurekavic.blogspot.com/2010/01/after-shake-eurekas-january-10th.html

The post and pier foundation was suspect to begin with and we had budgeted some funds for foundation repairs. But after the house shifter northward while the foundation stayed put, a large number of the post were moved on their piers and the pier were pushing the house skirting outward.

 

[Riick]

Northern California, where the termites are the size of bear cubs.
Is it possible they used wood rammed into the earth?

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[Smokey Bear]

where the termites are the size of bear cubs.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

Posts and Peirs (or Piers and Beams) would be those supports located INSIDE the foundation ... supporting the actual floor joists. Typically consisting of a poured concrete pier on which a post or bean is supported running between the pier and the floor joist they support.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Typically consisting of a poured concrete pier on which a post or bean is supported running between the pier and the floor joist

or stacked bricks, concrete blocks, wood chunks.....po' people have po' ways....

The house below has treated wood post in a post and beam type construction with a floating (non-load bearing) slab foundation. The posts are about 4' apart.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

or stacked bricks, concrete blocks, wood chunks.....po' people have po' ways....

The house below has treated wood post in a post and beam type construction with a floating (non-load bearing) slab foundation. The posts are about 4' apart.

Right you are Terrel. Right you are. :laugh:

 

[Lloyd Bonafide]

Northern California, where the termites are the size of bear cubs.
Is it possible they used wood rammed into the earth?

We still see some post and pier, or post and beam construction in very old areas of San Diego. (Redwood posts, and even all redwood framing, which termites just don't like to eat.)

 

[Flakey]

I like a P&P Loaf sandwich!

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Pepper and Pickle? Olive loaf sandwich...geez, the only thing worse was souse.