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What would you say if you had the chance?

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Wendy,

I have done many of these. One of the topics that gets the most reaction is contribution value. Explain in detail the difference between cost and contribution.

One way I would highlight this was by using two of the firm's listings. One would be a small, 2/1 bungalow style home in the $80-90,000 range. The other would be a 4000 sf $500,000 home. I would ask them if the lack of a garage in both homes would affect value by the same dollar amount. They would look at you like you are stupid and say of course not. It would hurt the big home much more. Than you look at them and tell them that is why there is no magic number for what one is worth, it is what it contributes to the overall value of the property.

The other thing I would do, before hand, is call ahead to one of their leading listing agents. Iwould tell him/her I was coming and would like to appraise one of his more difficult listings, for free. Yes I would do that. I would meet him/her at the home, have that person follow me throughout the inspection process. I would teach him/her how to measure. At the meeting, I would pass out a copy of the appraisal, with the drawing. IThe appraisal and the drawing were often much different than the listing price and the brokers GLA. we would talk about how I got there. Many would say that homes like that were hard to measure. I offered a measuring service. I would tell them to call me when they had a tough one and would measure and draw it (for a small fee).

I would get many calls from the agents on questions about GLA (mostly) how to properly measure a cape COD, angled walls, basements, etc. I took the time to answer them.

This creates need/need situation with the brokers. When I wanted to verify sales, they would answer the call and help me because I was willing to help them. It also allowed me to see many of the high end homes in the area because I would assit in measuring them or provide a listing appraisal for them. This allowed my database to right. All I would need to verify were concessions. However, when you provide many of the listing appraisals, the banks would have me do the "sale" appraisal, since I would get a copy of the contract, my database would be complete. No calls for verification needed.

I think we go into this in to much of an us angainst them mentality. If we help them, they remember that. They will help you when you need it.

Good luck.
 
Well, todays group was less engaged in the topics than yesterday. Far more new brokers ( less than a year's experience ) .. The LIST was brought up.. two older ladies with I would guess 20 yrs in the biz asked for the current LIST.. I was happy to use a forum example of contribution and they agreed a garage has a different contribution in different locations. Then they proceeded to blow me out of my chair.. Said they had attended a real estate accademy, taught by an appriaser, about 8 yrs ago .. and he gave them a list they have been using ever since.. It was crystal clear to those agents that I was giving them mis information..

My head hurts.. I guess it's from banging it against all this apathy! 8O

Ah well, I tried.. and probably will again when this memory fades!
Thanks for all your input! Peace! W
 
:rofl:

I can't help it. Sorry... :oops:

Most agents with 6 months or more in the biz firmly believe that their very own HIGHEST W.A.G. is 100% better than any experienced appraiser ever could come up with! An appraiser is only involved to put their E&O & personal butt on the deal by rubber stamping their contract price!

Statistics? The true GLA?

"We don't need no stinkin statistics and my very own guess of the GLA works well enough for my very own highest price per square foot pricing!"

:rofl:

(sorry.... a little bit.... again.... cynicism coming through again)

I'll stop now.....

:rofl:
 
Wendy, ..... So, they have been using their "List" from 8 years ago. No doubt they think that the List, and all its special numbers, remains constant over time. I wonder if their List has categorical numbers which might chance as the pricing and quality of the homes and neighborhoods differs. Eight years ago perhaps the Maine market was just coming out of the '89 to '92 slump, overall home prices would have been less than the general level one might now find them in today. Respectively, and ideally, their List would be out-dated ! One might have asked the rhetorical question of whether any one of them used their "List" in the last few months......wait for the "yes" reply......then say, "what a shame, as you applied numbers which were old, and you effectively were MIS-LEADING your clients in your use of that List".......then, completely change the subject to another topic of discussion. Say it with a smile, of course.
 
Let them know that verification of data is a paramount discipline in our profession. Ask them to be as honest, accurate, and explanatory as they can in the MLS descriptions. This may cut down on the telephone interview time.
 
Ross~ that was exactly my point to the gentle ladies.. but the part that they just couldn't let go of was that and APPRAISER gave it to them so how could I now point out how irrelivant it MUST be today.. I was truely experiencing the twilight zone.. Will it surprise you to find out that that APPRAISER no longer practices.. ??

Pam.. snickering is certainly in order! :wink:

Peace!
 
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