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Where Have All the Houses Gone?

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If somebody lists their home to sell, they have to move somewhere. And it is getting harder to "downsize" since even starter homes have shot up in price. So even if a seller gets a high price, they have to pay a crazy high price for an inferior home, which discourages them from selling. Also many homeowners are refinancing for a low interest rates big incentive to stay put.

There is inventory, just in smaller amounts, I am seeing some high list prices here but many sale prices actually not higher in past few months . will see. After a while high prices turn off buyers too , and some are waiting this cycle out.
 
My Unsupported Southern California California Real Estate Analysis :
Extremely low interest rates are a perfect receipt for creating extreme shortages of supply and help create market bubbles. How many folks- especially the older ones are going-to sell out of a 2% to 3% mortgage ? Then as prices increase at some juncture the lower rate loses its benefit because the price increases have the same effect as paying higher interest rates. In my area prices on $550,000 Ghetto shacks have gone from $550,000 to near $600,000 or more in the last 6 months. Bidding wars, purchases waiving home inspections, appraisals and some where the buyers never even physically went inside the property-Virtual Sales. Finally as the inventory shrinks at some juncture you have priced out all but the wealthy or the old people who purchased years ago at prices that were 25% of what we see today. Rich in equity-poor in cash and the young people at some point won't be able to afford them even at a zero % interest rate. The old people-have whats similar to Golden Handcuffs which in corporate was a word meaning the Golden handcuffs were offered by employers to existing key employees as a means of holding onto them as well as to increase employee retention rates. Your held hostage by your real estate unless you sell it and relocate to a lower cost State. A weird phenomena and in my opinion not healthy for future generations of young people who will require two PHDs From Harvard or Yale -MIT or Stanford and even then may not be living in anything but a 600 Sq.t. cold water flat in a ghetto neighborhood.

Hey-Yenta do you think we should move ? Uncle Billy and I kinda like that Florida Mar-A-Lagos Place and there is no State Tax and we can learn to golf. Response: Look you two dummies there is no place for us to go because of my bad knees, hips and arthritis and we are staying here because of the mild weather. And quit thinking about some new hair brained money making project because it gives me a headache. And last year it was stupid talk about becoming wildcatters in some stupid place you guys called the Permian-Basin in Texas and drilling for oil and heck that's hard work and you guys are lazy and summers there are hot as hell and you know-nothing about or oil or gas, unless it comes out of a hose or a can at a local Exxon-Mobile Gas Station.

Further more I don't care if those people in Texas have nothing better to do on Friday nights except-to go to a stupid High school Football Game. I would never live around those uncultured Rednecks- Heck it's hard enough just living with you two. I reply with you New York City people with your culture and museums and plays, always think your smarter then everyone else, and hell Uncle Billy and I would rather go to a High-School Football game with 10,000 excited Texans then spend all day with a bunch of arrogant-self absorbed wanna be people all pretending to know all the artistic-nuances looking at a boring Jackson Pollock Mural Exhibition on Fifth Avenue. And no we don't care if your Sister Graduated From Julliard or directed Broadway Plays. Hell a 12-pack of Bud and a good old American Graffiti Movie beats the best Broadway Play. Yenta: Response: Yeah you two are culturally and artistically retarded and your not going to make it in Manhattan or Palm Beach or Mar-A-Lago- So just accept the cards you were dealt and be happy.

I look at Uncle Billy--See every-time we think we are going to leave this place the Yenta puts a cabash on our plans. Uncle Billy says yeah 40 years of fixing leaking pipes, roofs, late night calls from tenants complaining about something , and nobody wants to pay us rent during Covid-19 and we get no sympathy-it's lonely out here in the West being a small two man shop.

The Yenta says quit bitching and whining you are crybaby's and lets face it you two idiots built this Teenier-Weeny-Real Estate Empire, but what you didn't know was that no-matter how fast it appreciated the better properties that you didn't purchase-because your cheap went up faster than your junk. We called you people Slum Lords in New York and out here they call you low income owners and property managers. So it's a Zero Sum Game, and all you did was chase your tails. And no you aren't going anywhere except to empty the trash, feed the dogs and cats, mow a lawn, wash some cars and be done and all cleaned up by 5:30 PM . Maybe later if you dont end up killing yourselfs by doing something stupid you can watch an-old Humfrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall movie and pretend your living in Key Largo -because thats about as close to the Ocean as your getting. Billy says well I always wanted to learn to Sail and I hear Mar-A-Lago and Palm Beach is a great place to do it. Response No !

Uncle Billy says I feel like Teyve in the Fiddler on the Roof and your wife is just like his wife in the play and always nagging every one. I laugh and tell him OK let's do our chores and we can sing if I were A Rich Man and then once all the candle lighting non-sense is over--We can sneak out to the garage and play poker and watch some good old non-PC correct movies and plan our next money making venture. And not to worry-We will break out of this prison in the next three years come hell or high-water. Billy says I don't know if I will make it another three years. I look at him and say-don't worry about it I will build you a small shrine when I get to Mar-A-Lago and light a candle every Friday evening at 5:30 PM and say a prayer for your lost soul , then I will tell everyone I meet just how you were such a blessing in my life and how much I miss you. Uncle Billy high fives me and says-- I sure am glad to know that you really don't mean what you say about me. I reply with yeah your OK but like Pop says you are a first class PITA. I don't know Florida Law but I will try and sneak your ashes out on a boat and dump you in the Ocean-maybe you will become a fish and pester the other fish for another 90 years.
 
The houses are all getting bought. What is happening this year compared to prior years is not that there are fewer people selling houses. What is happening is more people are buying houses resulting in a lower number of homes available for sale at a given time.
 
My Unsupported Southern California California Real Estate Analysis :
Extremely low interest rates are a perfect receipt for creating extreme shortages of supply and help create market bubbles. How many folks- especially the older ones are going-to sell out of a 2% to 3% mortgage ? Then as prices increase at some juncture the lower rate loses its benefit because the price increases have the same effect as paying higher interest rates. In my area prices on $550,000 Ghetto shacks have gone from $550,000 to near $600,000 or more in the last 6 months. Bidding wars, purchases waiving home inspections, appraisals and some where the buyers never even physically went inside the property-Virtual Sales. Finally as the inventory shrinks at some juncture you have priced out all but the wealthy or the old people who purchased years ago at prices that were 25% of what we see today. Rich in equity-poor in cash and the young people at some point won't be able to afford them even at a zero % interest rate. The old people-have whats similar to Golden Handcuffs which in corporate was a word meaning the Golden handcuffs were offered by employers to existing key employees as a means of holding onto them as well as to increase employee retention rates. Your held hostage by your real estate unless you sell it and relocate to a lower cost State. A weird phenomena and in my opinion not healthy for future generations of young people who will require two PHDs From Harvard or Yale -MIT or Stanford and even then may not be living in anything but a 600 Sq.t. cold water flat in a ghetto neighborhood.

Hey-Yenta do you think we should move ? Uncle Billy and I kinda like that Florida Mar-A-Lagos Place and there is no State Tax and we can learn to golf. Response: Look you two dummies there is no place for us to go because of my bad knees, hips and arthritis and we are staying here because of the mild weather. And quit thinking about some new hair brained money making project because it gives me a headache. And last year it was stupid talk about becoming wildcatters in some stupid place you guys called the Permian-Basin in Texas and drilling for oil and heck that's hard work and you guys are lazy and summers there are hot as hell and you know-nothing about or oil or gas, unless it comes out of a hose or a can at a local Exxon-Mobile Gas Station.

Further more I don't care if those people in Texas have nothing better to do on Friday nights except-to go to a stupid High school Football Game. I would never live around those uncultured Rednecks- Heck it's hard enough just living with you two. I reply with you New York City people with your culture and museums and plays, always think your smarter then everyone else, and hell Uncle Billy and I would rather go to a High-School Football game with 10,000 excited Texans then spend all day with a bunch of arrogant-self absorbed wanna be people all pretending to know all the artistic-nuances looking at a boring Jackson Pollock Mural Exhibition on Fifth Avenue. And no we don't care if your Sister Graduated From Julliard or directed Broadway Plays. Hell a 12-pack of Bud and a good old American Graffiti Movie beats the best Broadway Play. Yenta: Response: Yeah you two are culturally and artistically retarded and your not going to make it in Manhattan or Palm Beach or Mar-A-Lago- So just accept the cards you were dealt and be happy.

I look at Uncle Billy--See every-time we think we are going to leave this place the Yenta puts a cabash on our plans. Uncle Billy says yeah 40 years of fixing leaking pipes, roofs, late night calls from tenants complaining about something , and nobody wants to pay us rent during Covid-19 and we get no sympathy-it's lonely out here in the West being a small two man shop.

The Yenta says quit bitching and whining you are crybaby's and lets face it you two idiots built this Teenier-Weeny-Real Estate Empire, but what you didn't know was that no-matter how fast it appreciated the better properties that you didn't purchase-because your cheap went up faster than your junk. We called you people Slum Lords in New York and out here they call you low income owners and property managers. So it's a Zero Sum Game, and all you did was chase your tails. And no you aren't going anywhere except to empty the trash, feed the dogs and cats, mow a lawn, wash some cars and be done and all cleaned up by 5:30 PM . Maybe later if you dont end up killing yourselfs by doing something stupid you can watch an-old Humfrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall movie and pretend your living in Key Largo -because thats about as close to the Ocean as your getting. Billy says well I always wanted to learn to Sail and I hear Mar-A-Lago and Palm Beach is a great place to do it. Response No !

Uncle Billy says I feel like Teyve in the Fiddler on the Roof and your wife is just like his wife in the play and always nagging every one. I laugh and tell him OK let's do our chores and we can sing if I were A Rich Man and then once all the candle lighting non-sense is over--We can sneak out to the garage and play poker and watch some good old non-PC correct movies and plan our next money making venture. And not to worry-We will break out of this prison in the next three years come hell or high-water. Billy says I don't know if I will make it another three years. I look at him and say-don't worry about it I will build you a small shrine when I get to Mar-A-Lago and light a candle every Friday evening at 5:30 PM and say a prayer for your lost soul , then I will tell everyone I meet just how you were such a blessing in my life and how much I miss you. Uncle Billy high fives me and says-- I sure am glad to know that you really don't mean what you say about me. I reply with yeah your OK but like Pop says you are a first class PITA. I don't know Florida Law but I will try and sneak your ashes out on a boat and dump you in the Ocean-maybe you will become a fish and pester the other fish for another 90 years.

That's OK Glen. I'll move for you and let you know how BAD its working out once I get to Texas (so you don't get jealous). ;)
 
The houses are all getting bought. What is happening this year compared to prior years is not that there are fewer people selling houses. What is happening is more people are buying houses resulting in a lower number of homes available for sale at a given time.

Yup. And the past 90 days have seen a big spike in median values up here in NorCal as a result. I have never, in 20 years, seen this few homes on the market at this time of year. And, as someone upthread mentioned, a lot of them are selling without ever hitting MLS. Hate fly-by-night realtors who do that stuff.

The reputable realtors who understand everyone's role in the system will post on MLS "for comp purposes" after it sells at least.
 
"Where have all the houses gone?
Long time passing.
Where have all the houses gone?
Long time ago.
Where have all the houses gone?

The interest rates are rising, marketing times are longer
Soon there will be the usual over supply
Oh, When will you ever learn?
Oh, When will you ever learn?"

Apologies to Peter, Paul, and Mary
 
Yup. And the past 90 days have seen a big spike in median values up here in NorCal as a result. I have never, in 20 years, seen this few homes on the market at this time of year. And, as someone upthread mentioned, a lot of them are selling without ever hitting MLS. Hate fly-by-night realtors who do that stuff.

The reputable realtors who understand everyone's role in the system will post on MLS "for comp purposes" after it sells at least.
I see more of these "for comp purposes" only.
I hate them because there are no description or photos of the interior condition.
Some lenders don't want me to use them as first 3 comps.
 
Listening to a AM Radio mortgage show yesterday, you know the usual hype, but it got interesting when it came to appraisal issues. They stated that only about 25% to 30% of their refinances and limited out cash refinances required appraisals. Another interesting point was that cash out refinances were over 60% of their current business and that lass then 15% are purchases. Watching the bond markets and feds admitted that the Chinese and Japanese who have historically been out biggest buyers of treasury's have all but pulled out as have other countries. So the Fed's are purchasing their own paper on an-expanding deficit market with another 2 Trillion hitting shortly. The wall street Bond Vigilantes are saying the Feds are in a corner and have no idea what they are doing, but hoping the game can be played long enough for a miracle to hit.

Warrant Buffet announced bonds are dead after a 30 year run from 17% down to 1.46% on the 10 year. There is literally no where to go except Zero and the world no longer believes we are secure or safe enough to be stupid enough to but zero rate paper. So this phenomenon had forced even old folks into riskier classes like Junk Bonds-and stocks.

Real estate is also getting flooded in SO CA with all cash offers because there is no place to park it. Finally we are seeing a big disconnect rents declining and real estate prices increasing. In the Commercial Estate Markets, if we pull out the PPE loans to businesses then even more Non-Essential Real Estate will enter Zombie mode.

For some reason in residential everyone knows nothing makes sense except to keep repeating-We have -No Inventory-We Have no Inventory-The scariest days will be when the Realtors and talking heads start saying- We Have Inventory-We Have Inventory because all it may take is a 2% interest rate increase to bust the bubble in those $500,000 to $700,000 Ghetto House Loans.

Me thinks late 2021 is going to be interesting times-unless we can just send out trillions every 90 days for ever- As far as residential appraisers grab all you can now because its hard to create a new refinance boom when your at 2% on the 15 year fixed and 2.75 % on the 30 year fixed. We played the refinance booms for 30 years with the Feds moving rates up and down. Finally DODD FRANK ? created the rule that lenders have to be able to prove the refinance is beneficial to the borrower . Down the road say a guy has a 2.5% mortgage but he desperately needs cash and rates are at 3.5%-there is no benefit and therefore unless they modify or eliminate Dodd Frank we could have millions of borrowers locked in a to a corner. Somehow me thinks the politicians will turn on Dodd Frank and say it's hurting home ownership : )
 
You guys are going to be scratching your heads and super confused when prices continue increasing with rates increasing. :)
 
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