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Who was the incompetent nerd that came up with FHA sketch labeling requirement regarding covered and uncovered porches and decks?

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FHA 4000.1 states: "Sketches must show porches and outbuildings that have value, and porches and decks must be indicated “covered” or “uncovered.”.

Is there such a thing as an "Uncovered Porch" versus "Covered Porch", when by definition a porch is a covered entrance area?

And regarding "Covered Deck" versus "Uncovered Deck", wouldn't a "Covered Patio" automatically mean it is a covered deck, versus an "Open Deck" automatically means it is an "Uncovered Deck"? NOT according to an FHA reviewer who insists i label the porch in my sketch as either an open porch or covered porch --- so, i labeled it as an open porch even though it is contradictory in definition/terminology, the revision was accepted.

Then on a different assignment, a sketch included a ":Gazebo" and an "Open Pool Deck". The reviewer says the gazebo must be labeled as a "Covered Gazebo" or an "Uncovered Gazebo", and the "Open Pool Deck" must be changed to a "Covered Pool Deck" or an "Uncovered Pool Deck".

Obviously, there must be a difference in definition between an "Open Deck" versus an "Uncovered Deck"... but what is the difference?

I AM SICK and TIRED of COMPLYING with nonsensical meaningless FHA guidelines written by incompetent policy writing nerds who obviously have never done an appraisal in his/her behind-the-desk career.
 
FHA 4000.1 states: "Sketches must show porches and outbuildings that have value, and porches and decks must be indicated “covered” or “uncovered.”.

Is there such a thing as an "Uncovered Porch" versus "Covered Porch", when by definition a porch is a covered entrance area?

And regarding "Covered Deck" versus "Uncovered Deck", wouldn't a "Covered Patio" automatically mean it is a covered deck, versus an "Open Deck" automatically means it is an "Uncovered Deck"? NOT according to an FHA reviewer who insists i label the porch in my sketch as either an open porch or covered porch --- so, i labeled it as an open porch even though it is contradictory in definition/terminology, the revision was accepted.

Then on a different assignment, a sketch included a ":Gazebo" and an "Open Pool Deck". The reviewer says the gazebo must be labeled as a "Covered Gazebo" or an "Uncovered Gazebo", and the "Open Pool Deck" must be changed to a "Covered Pool Deck" or an "Uncovered Pool Deck".

Obviously, there must be a difference in definition between an "Open Deck" versus an "Uncovered Deck"... but what is the difference?

I AM SICK and TIRED of COMPLYING with nonsensical meaningless FHA guidelines written by incompetent policy writing nerds who obviously have never done an appraisal in his/her behind-the-desk career.
then stop doing FHA. I did. Less aggravation and liability.
 
It's not just FHA. I got busted by reviewer that I didn't indicate Covered Porch on my sketch.
Since then I always put it in the sketch. It's not that important but Fannie has been concentrating on unimportant things like ANSI.
 
then stop doing FHA. I did. Less aggravation and liability.

People who comply with idiotic policies do not make them good appraisers, neither do people who walk away from existing problems.
 
People who comply with idiotic policies do not make them good appraisers, neither do people who walk away from existing problems.
So you rather get an ulcer and go online to B I T C H about FHA policies rather than stop doing FHA appraisals and lowering your blood pressure. Got it. SMH
 
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I AM SICK and TIRED of COMPLYING with nonsensical meaningless FHA guidelines written by incompetent policy writing nerds who obviously have never done an appraisal in his/her behind-the-desk career.
HUD reviewers "live" simply to correct attitudes such as the above. If they have to write you up twice for the same defect expect sanctions and remedial education. Further compounded by the knowledge that the person requiring the same was smiling when they did it. "Tilting at Windmills" is time better spent.
 
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