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WI board finding, most detailed I've seen

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As far as doing something, what are the options? Have Congress amend FIREEA? Have the Wisc state legislature amend the state law? "Teach" the board USPAP?

File complaints, contact representatives, attend board meeting, write to the Governor, get involved. There are lots of things that can be done. I think maybe my post may have been interpreted the wrong way. I was not trying to be harsh. I was trying to find out Tim's perspective. I don't like what is happening and I certainly do not want to see it continue. People lives are being destroyed.
 
I agree, but there is no getting around that the system is built a certain way. In another thread, someone posted that a judge already opined that this board has run amock.
 
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I agree, but there is no getting around that the system is built a certain way. In another thread, someone posted that a judge already opined that this board has run amock.

Please don't take offense but everytime the words "opine" or "opined" is used I want to puke. It seems to be the latest attorney jargon along with"bad actor".

I'm sorry, but I disagree with your opinion that there is no getting around the system. If everyone sank their head into the sand and didn't try to do something, we would still have slavery and women would not be allowed to vote. Of course this situation does not compare with the Emancipation Proclamation or Suffrage. If we allow abuse of power to continue, how far will this go? The states have rule over many licenses.

Sit back, allow it to happen, and then what?
 
I think we can change the system. But it will take all the appraisers working together.

Right now I feel most appraisers fear the board and for real reasons. I understand that if I loose this fight, the state will bill me for all the time they have spent on it. board fees, state attorney fees, expert witness fees in addition to any additional fines the may choose to levey in any amount. This could run into the hunreds of thousands of dollars.

Or I could have choose to roll over and make like I was dead and accept what ever the state wanted to offer. Which for many people is the killing of your appraisal business.

In the very end the state has the right to over rule the ALJ even if he finds in your favor.

Not many people want to take the time to band together to fight something like the state Division of Regulation & License. They have the funds to whip you down into the mud and muck.

They have no one to answer to.
 
Tomorrow at 11:00 I'm going to be in Bismarck ND for what may well be the final chapter in my fight with the ND Appraisal Board!

I beat them at the administrative level! They hired a new attorney and wrote their own opinion disregarding the findings of fact and conclusions of law. They required six (6) more appraisals for review. (I've now had close to 140 appraisals reviewed since 1993)

Three of the six were reviewed by a former member of the AQB and former chief appraiser for a government alphabet entity. One of the three he reported was 'very minimal', my sales comparison approach lacked documentation and support for qualitative adjustments, I had customized the certification with my name and company name and he didn't like it, and my comparable sales did not contain any info regarding if the sales were cash or other terms, needless to say all were recorded with a Warranty Deed, which in this area means they were cash or cash equivalent.

The second one I made some errors which he took me to the cleaners on! The third report he thought was not completed properly because I failed to provide some information he thought was necessary, yet the lender/client thought they got too much information!

He was very good at finding faults, yet his checklist is full of things I did right on the appraisal?

The second three were reviewed by a more typical reviewer the state hires. They are, in my opinion, hired to find errors, simple as that. In the three he reviewed I was found in error by not analyzing and commenting on Entreprenurial Profit in the Cost approach and on two of the appraisals I didn't properly (weak, in his words) analyze and reconcile market rent and didn't have any relevant analysis of vacancy and collection loss.

Is that enough to not allow me to go forward and become licensed again? I'm not too sure?

USPAP does not require perfection. I've appraised since March of 1979 and have NEVER had a client complain? I'm currently a certified general appraiser in Minnesota. I've continued on with this fight hoping I could outlive the board members. One of the board members (the chair and an MAI) has been there since 1992, a second (MAI) took over for me when I resigned in disgust in 1997 and is still there. The third is a residential appraiser who has been there the least amount of time, about two years. There is an attorney member (public) who has about five years or so on the board, and a lender member who has been there at least ten years if not longer!

I have empathy for Ray and his situation!

The majority of appraisers appear to be like ostriches, when things get kind of difficult, they put their collective heads in a hole in the ground and try to avoid any chance of being caught.

In North Dakota I know licensed and certified appraisers are afraid of the board. They know their knowledge of USPAP and compliance falls well below the level of the boards' hired guns. They prefer to go along and hope they don't do something that rises to the level of an investigation by the board.

I've reviewed literally hundreds of reports over the years and have yet to find one perfect, yet the board requires mine to be perfect.
 
Stefan Olafson,

Give then a good whippen. I will be praying for you to have a good out come at your hearing
 
I read the findings, I just don't understand what the case is about.
Why is their a complaint? What'd the appraiser do wrong?
Why is there only Q&A with The ALJ and the reviewer? Wasn't
the appraiser represented by an attorney?
 
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