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Zaio: Everybody buckle your seat belts

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So, with the advances in technology, I suppose a google earth photo of a property would be considered a drive-by inspection? or satellite by?
 
So, with the advances in technology, I suppose a google earth photo of a property would be considered a drive-by inspection? or satellite by?

Don't knock Google Earth:) Recently an overlay of Google Earth, the FEMA map and county section map helped one of my customers rebut a post closing audit by the investor that claimed the improvements were in Zone A, and a big time flood policy was being purchased and slammed into escrow requirements.

Forget the fact that the shipped file had an appraisal where the appraiser identified improvements in zone X and an independent flood cert was obtained from an engineering firm and was included in the file. Plus, it had passed through underwriting:new_multi:

I think every LO should also be/have been an appraiser:shrug: :) For a moment I thought I missed the boat by not being a RLS. Thank you, Google Earth. Please, put in a FEMA map overlay option in the pro model, hah? Same advice to you, Zao.
 
Who is the client in the preappraisal? Please don't tell me it is Zaio.:) Did anyone from Zaio ever clarify that issue?
Nope.

I think that Zaio might be able to write up a "terms of use" agreement that has to be "read" and checked off by the client prior to downloading the report. They could probably devise a precast SOW that would be aimed at intended users that are "identified by type" as mortgage lenders, so they might be able to handle the requirement for identifying the use and users that way.

From a conceptual basis the problem I'm having with that take-it-or-leave-it approach is that when a client agrees that the precast SOW is approrpriate by checking the "yes, I agree" box, they're also doing so for their lender. In other words, they are acting as the agent for that lender. As we all know, some of these loan originators really are agents for their respective lenders - with the authority to make such decisions - but most are not.

Moreover, if the requirements for identifying their clients were strictly a reporting issue, than an automated system that inserts the client's name into the report could comply with SR2-2.*.i . However, client identification is also part of the development requirements in SR1-2.a and the SOW requirements in the SOWR (lines 409, and 419-421). The automated insertion of a client's name into a report cannot meet that requirement. The individual appraiser is still required to identify their client for development purposes, and that's supposed to occur prior to the completion of the appraisal.

These so-called "pre-appraisals" would therefore still have to identify a client at the time they are developed, and any changes that occur would result in new assignments with their own SOW requirements.

I just don't see how Zaio can get around these requirements short of having their ZA sit in front of a computer all day waiting for assignments to come in, identifying their clients and only then proceeding with the rest of the appraisal process.

From Zaio's descriptions of their process, that doesn't appear to be how it works. It appears as though the appraisal development is performed at one point by the ZA, periodically updated, and it is only when a client enters the system looking for an appraisal on a property that the system, not the appraiser, enters the client's name into the report, just prior to automatically signing the report for the appraiser using their stored signature.

No matter how Zaio portrays it, their process does not follow the process of

1) identify assignment elements
2) identify the appropriate SOW for those assignment elements
3) execute the SOW

It's more like:

1) Make assumptions about most of the assignment elements
2) identify an appropriate SOW based on those assumptions
3) execute the SOW
4) provide a take-it-or-leave-it agreement, after the fact, for the client to either accept or reject a workproduct that was not, in fact, developed specifically for them.

That agreement basically puts the client in charge of validating the assumptions about SOW that were made by the Zaio Zone Appraiser, even though per the SOWR (Lines 420-421) the responsibility for SOW decisions ultimately rest with the appraiser.

I can see how some of these conflicts can be reconciled, but I don't have enough imagination to see how they can all be reconciled.
 
IMO, this whole concept seems more logical if implemented as a pure AVM with enhanced data (versus the competition) provided by the ZA's in the field. The ZA's in turn could be compensated via a royalty earned whenever any of the properties in their zone is tapped as either subject or comparable sale.
 
Mr. Wimpelberg,

Ummmm, I don't think USPAP prohibits an appraiser from "appraising" anything they want to even without a "Client" involved. Bit if a new concept for me.

Client: No one... I hired myself.

Intended Use: None... I thought it would be fun.

Intended Users: The appraiser himself or herself.


It might seem strange, but I can't think of any reason it is prohibited other than signing your not biased in certifications when you are your own client, doing it for no reason, would be a new one. I guess their "Intended Use" would be "Speculation of future marketability of the appraisal product"

Barry Dayton
 
Hi Ken,
Would you say that Zaio's business model is based upon a presumption.....
Anticipation that the market will remain brisk, active and strong. That there will be a demand and supply mortgage market. Have you considered all variables that might stymie demand. GNP, govt. deficits, economic growth/spending, affordable i rates, rising national tax/insurance increases etc. that affect demand.

Tell me you see a bright sunny economic future in your crystal ball as opposed to dire fore casted predictions. All things considered what we do know for sure is that the foreclosure market will be robust. Do you feel the Zaio product will sufficiently accomodate these evaluations.

Carol, I'm looking at the market for all my services as being active. I'm neither banking on robust nor decline. Just active. I ain't smart enough to go beyond that.

Not sure I understand your last point/question...Do I feel the Zaio product(s) will accomodate foreclosure demand? Perhaps a pre foreclosure demand...lender wanting to get an idea of how much value there is relative to the loan outstanding as part of the decision process whether to foreclose or not...once foreclosure is achieved, I'd think interior inspections would be wanted....haven't really given much thought to that...

Wasn't sure if your questions were simply retorical or if you really wanted me to answer...so I answered just in case you did want one.
 
<snip> However, client identification is also part of the development requirements in SR1-2.a and the SOW requirements in the SOWR (lines 409, and 419-421). The automated insertion of a client's name into a report cannot meet that requirement. The individual appraiser is still required to identify their client for development purposes, and that's supposed to occur prior to the completion of the appraisal.

These so-called "pre-appraisals" would therefore still have to identify a client at the time they are developed, and any changes that occur would result in new assignments with their own SOW requirements. <snip>

Mr. Hatch,

Appraisal firm is incorporated? XYZ Appraising Corp? So the appraiser's "Client" is XYZ Appraisal Corp... It's own legal entity?

Intended Use: Speculation"?

Intended Users: "Possible future clients"?

S.o.W.: "POS"?

;)

I'm just trying not to be negative about everything today...;)

Barry Dayton
 
Ken, I am all over top of all the latest and greatest technological advances and am fully aware of the changes coming to our marketplace. I think I might just be smart enough to wait until ZAIO proves itself as having some value to the market before I jump in. Of course, as soon as it does show merit, every software vendor, camera manufacturer, and most appraiser's will mimic ZAIO's methods and likely for much less than $8k. ZAIO probably has nice tight contracts for the suckers that buy in now. They can't protect these same suckers from losing their market share when someone else does the same thing. You see, I don't think anti-trust laws etc will allow ZAIO to be the only folks allowed to take pictures of peoples houses and keep it in a database with some AVM tools and an appraisers signature. Ain't gonna happen.(and yes, I saw your comment about "legislative initiatives). I'll wait for the generic version, thank you very much.

Mr. Radford, I've read your comment and your assumptions. It seems to me that all the things you mention are possible and it is rational to consider them. I sincerely wish you well with your decision.
 
As a newbie here, I'll return to being "seen and not heard" and look forward to learning from this fine group!

12 posts later...

From "newbie" to "aspiring forumite" in one thread.

Guess that "seen and not heard" thingy's not working out so well.
 
No it doesn't. Inclusion of TWO dates violates Certification 25 of the 2055 form/Fannie Requirement.

wonders what definitions of the words "IS" & "and" those who INCORRECTLY fill out the 2055 are utilizing.:Eyecrazy:

"which IS the date of inspection AND the effective date of appraisal".

clear, concise, meaningful, AND a requirement of the 2055.

sorry......."clintonese" doesn't cut the muster. :Eyecrazy:

Aha Mr. Kennedy! I now see where you are coming from. The word 'is'. I think that is a good point. If I were writing that sentence for my interpretation, I certainly would have used the word 'are', just as you infer. I'll do my homework on the basis of that point.

I'm not sure I'd agree with the Certification 25 violation, but heck, let's leave that open for now.

I'll be back when I have facts to support either your position or mine.
 
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