Condo/Townhomes

[Frederick R. Ruffell]

You give him a call Frederick. I will be glad to supply the number. BTW, the legals we use in this part of the country are by metes and bounds. in Virginia we are not stuck with that God awful rectangular survey system you use in california.

I am much to busy teaching a class of 30 appraiser wannbes from 6:00PM to 10:30PM each night. Beside, i don't have to prove anything to anyone. As I state, we also have 2 unit condos where the entire condo is just 2 units. Now who do you think would own the land unless it is the 2 owners of the condo units?

As to note #1, it clearly shows that the UNIT(as in Condo Unit) footprint. The rest of the site is LIMITED COMMON AREA. Each unit owner is responsible for the maintenance, upkeep, cutting grass, driveway maintenance, etc as any single family property owner would be in a non condo. The unit owner owns the land under the footprint. And, no, i will not do a title search for you. If you really are interested I can recommend either a local Attorney or Title company who can do a search for you and explain it in more detail. Of course they will want to be paid. As for me, I am done. Got better things to do.

Sorry you felt that you had to prove anything Don, that was not my intent. I never said that the owners of condominiumds dont' own the land, In fact I was the one that pointed out that they do own the land, collectively. Then someone called my argument "semantics". So, IMO and experiance here in CA, the 2 unit owners have a 1/2 indivisable interest in the land and other common elements.

But thanks for your participation.

At this point I would have to disagree with you as to the condominimum project you have identified as each unit having an individual lot deeded to the property.
The plat states "Parcels numbered 1 thru 28 are for condominium purposes only and are NOT to be considered Lots as in a subdivision" Pretty clear...

Yes there is a "limited common element" around the designated units, could that be defining and "exclusive use" clause within the project and the identified unit a building footprint, all to show the setback and seperation requirements???

Again I don't know for sure without further evidence. Based on what you have provided us (thanks) I would say that individual, singular, and seperate ownership of lots is NOT the case here. I think that the assessor may have assessed the land in that matter as a mistake or for his convenience.

Good luck with the mind molding.

 

[Mikew]

No no change of tone.

If you can't or won't accept the fact that the word "Ignorant" as defined is NOT an insult then re-read the thread and take comfort that the word was directed at the original poster and those appraiser's you called "perplexed" and not directed at you. Feel better now?

Wow, at least I feel much better. I was attempting to give you the benefit of the doubt. This was my fault. If you are going to say someone is "ignorant" perhaps you could put in a context of what they are ignorant of. Such as Fred is ignorant of internet etiquette. Otherwise someone from the South, utilizing such a term, without putting it in context is acutally usuing vernacular for someone who is backwards, or lacking knowledge in ALL things. The proper pronounciation of this would be igNAR ant. With a nice slow southern drawl. Somehow I get that general vibe from your posts as well.

Example: MikeW is ignorant of how to use spell check and grammar properly on a message board posting.


Next up you stated:


"actually I looked at your inital post again and am not really able to discern an actual question"

This is from my initial post:
Here is my problem, that hopefully can be resolved. It is quite common in our MLS system to have a townhome listed as a condo, however this is often simply an error by misinformed realtor. Then I go onto explain the problems I have, then I go on to ask:

What techniques do you use?"

Given my writing skills are rusty, but good lord I didn't think it was that difficult to understand.


You know after further thought, it must be my writing skills. After all w/ 5 posts,
A. I have depressed a moderator,

B. I have had soo many different examples that had absolutely nothing to do with my unique unit, that quite a few people made some serious jump to conclusions on, when in fact it 0 to do with the question presented, nor did they even remotely resemble anything to do with it.


C. Somehow convince a few people that I go round spouting off just random enormous simplifications when ever I get the chance. (well I do but that's beside the point, these are REALTORs after all

D. been accused of throwing rocks at glass houses (My house is made out of plexi-glass btw)

E Called ignorant

F. In between I have recieved some incredible insight and learned quite a bit of information.

My conclusion is that it is fairly obvious that there are quite a few opinions on the question presented. This provides a bit of consolation for my own ignorance of condinimiums (*see how less acerbic that sounds..)

.

 

[Scott Kibler]

Don't give up Mikew, most of the negativity you mention was not diercted at you, including the glass houses comment of mine.

You have to be aware that most of the side arguments that pop up in these threads had their origins in other, sometimes multiple threads going back to the mid-neolithic period. Some of us, it seems, just can't let things go.

In short, appraisers are a bunch of anti-social and generally weird people.

 

[Mr Rex]

Californification leads the way in all things American and are all knowing and encompassing of all laws countrywide. Step back and let us show you how it is/should be done all across the U.S.

Any questions?

Should I include an emoticon here for emphasis?

 

[Frederick R. Ruffell]

Ok enough with our inability to read, write and understand the English language, and lets get back on topic.
Does anyone but me also see the problem with the tax record and the Plat, especially NOTE #1 on the plat, and Dons claim that the condominiums each have a deeded lot? If not I give up.

 

[CURT VAN HOOSER]

Californification leads the way in all things American and are all knowing and encompassing of all laws countrywide. Step back and let us show you how it is/should be done all across the U.S.QUOTE]


Clearly you are learning!:woohoo:

 

[TC]

Mikew,

Bottom line, just dig hard to find out whether a property is a condo or not.

TC