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Can we control the weather?

If we can, we can control the climate. If we can't ...

A science fiction writer might imagine a future in which a government official -- the Minister of Weather Modification, perhaps -- dials up the day's weather for his country's citizens. A drought in the West? No problem, we'll just order a few gentle showers. A hurricane threatening the East Coast? Just stay calm, folks, we'll launch a small nuke to blast the storm apart.

They say truth is stranger than fiction, and such is the case with humans attempting to control the weather. Let's start with a brief history. Numerous Native American tribes, especially those living in semiarid desert country, such as the Pueblo, Hopi and Zuni, engaged in elaborate dances to coax moisture from the rain-stingy skies. In the late 1800s and early 1900s, rainmakers roamed across the western United States, promising to end droughts for a fee.

These itinerant salesmen used a combination of pseudo-science and grand showmanship to convince communities that their technique, often a device or structure used to deliver chemicals or gases into the air, would bring rain in short order. Even the U.S. government got in on the act. In 1891, Congress appropriated $19,000 to conduct rainmaking tests in Texas under the guidance of Robert Dryenforth. Dryenforth's results were inconclusive, and as the century turned, politicians and citizens began to regard rainmakers with increasing skepticism.

It would take another four decades before the scientists involved with weather control began to overshadow the charlatans. The real turning point came in 1946, when Irving Langmuir and Vincent Schaefer, chemists working at General Electric Research Laboratory in Schenectady, N.Y., discovered that they could introduce ice crystals into a supercooled cloud and create snow. They called the process glaciogenic cloud seeding and soon enlisted the help of physical chemist (and brother to novelist Kurt Vonnegut) Bernard Vonnegut.

Vonnegut searched for another crystalline substance that would have a similar effect, and he found it in silver iodide. Over time, the team worked out the basic science of cloud seeding, which goes like this: Often, the drops of moisture in clouds can't freeze without some extra help. If these drops encounter crystals of silver iodide, they glom onto the crystals and freeze. Once the ice grows big enough, it falls from the cloud, either as snow or, if it passes through warmer air, as rain.

Planting the Seeds of Weather Modification

Finally, scientists had found a way to control the weather -- at least in the lab. For the next 30 years, researchers and entrepreneurs across the world began applying the principles developed by Langmuir, Schaefer and Vonnegut to real-world cloud seeding. They flew airplanes into the clouds, releasing their own clouds of silver iodide as they went, or fired artillery shells filled with silver iodide into clouds. In some cases, these weather modifiers were trying to produce rain in drought-afflicted areas, mitigate hail damage by preventing hailstones from growing so large, or disperse fog banks around airports. Many proprietors of this new technology made audacious claims about their cloud seeding services. Unfortunately, hard science could never substantiate the claims. If anything, rigorous experimentation seemed to suggest that cloud seeding barely worked or, worse, didn't work at all.

Still, enough tantalizing evidence has accumulated over the years to keep interest in weather modification alive. For example, research conducted in South Africa and Mexico has shown that seeding warm rain clouds with salt particles -- what is known as hygroscopic seeding -- is more effective than seeding cold rain clouds with silver iodide. And Chinese scientists believe they have mastered cloud seeding to such a degree that they can guarantee a certain day will be rainy or sunny, like say the opening ceremony of the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, as this related article describes.

It's one thing to control precipitation from a few clouds over a localized area. But is it possible to prevent hurricanes from forming? Some scientists think so. Computer modeling of recent major hurricanes, such as 1992's Andrew, reveals how even one or two small changes could have turned a major catastrophe into a minor storm. This is the heart of chaos theory, a set of scientific principles describing highly complex systems, such as weather systems, where small changes in initial conditions radically change the final results.

Now meteorologists wonder whether they could put chaos to good use to prevent hurricanes from forming in the first place. If they could change one or two variables just as an Atlantic storm is beginning to coil itself into a monster, maybe they could diminish its strength or divert its path. Changing sea temperatures seems the most likely scenario, and a few scientists have proposed coating the ocean surface with a thin layer of biodegradable oil. This could, in theory, reduce evaporation, the process that drives hurricane formation. Similar ideas could work on tornadoes, as well. One physicist has proposed disrupting funnel-cloud formation by zapping the atmosphere with beams of microwaves shot from solar-powered satellites.

But right now, this sounds like more science fiction, where controlling the weather remains as easy as flipping a switch on the Weather Modification Machine and dialing up just the right amount of rain, snow or sun.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/climate-weather/atmospheric/control-weather.htm

Seems like believing in science fiction is to believe that man can control the weather or create weather. Therefore believing that man can control climate is also believing in science fiction.
 
Climate change: Can we even do it? Should we even try?

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has long been known worldwide for its engineering programs, and a symposium at MIT this week will draw scientists from around the globe to focus on a hot facet of the field -- climate engineering.

The title of the symposium itself underscores the questions surrounding climate-changing science: "Engineering a Cooler Earth: Can We Do It? Should We Try?"

Climate engineering may sound a little Frankensteinian and worrisome, but it's not a new concept. Governments and militaries have tried over the years to control the weather for various reasons -- and have mostly failed.

In the past decade, though, scientists have made major strides in developing technologies to cool the globe, and some of these processes are are gaining momentum among those who think drastic measures are needed to control the warming Earth.

The subject is rife with controversy, including whether intentional climate engineering itself is even new.

"Very broadly, we're already engineering the climate. The question now is whether we should do it on purpose," said MIT associate professor of environmental policy and symposium participant Judith Layzer. "That would involve taking action, inventing gizmos, and using them ideally to abate some of the warming that is expected to happen from global climate change."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/10/29/climate.engineering/index.html?iref=24hours

Vote: Purposely alter the climate from warming to cooling.
 
California DMV act to ensure drivers comply with VW recall

There has been speculation, since the scandal was exposed, that some car owners would decline to have their cars repaired -- since correcting the emissions could negatively affect the cars' performance or fuel efficiency.

The California Department of Motor Vehicles may step in and prevent Californians from renewing their registrations until they've had the recall work performed.

A spokesperson for the California Air Resources Board said Monday that a "DMV Tie-In Program" could be implemented to ensure the affected vehicles get repaired.

Within six months after a dealer recall involving emissions, the Air Resource Boards's David Clegern said, the manufacturers must supply vehicle identification numbers for the vehicles that have not had their recall repairs completed, and follow up with monthly updates on compliance.

"These names are flagged by DMV and owners are not allowed to register their vehicle until the recall is performed," Clegern said.

The program, Clegern said, has been extremely effective, resulting in a 93% compliance rate.

The DMV issued a statement partly confirming the CARB position.

“If DMV is notified that a vehicle owner has not responded to a manufacturer’s emission recall notice, registration of the vehicle will be refused until a Proof of Correction Certificate is submitted," the agency said. "The Proof of Correction Certificate is obtained from an authorized dealership after the recall repairs are performed and must be submitted to DMV by the vehicle owner prior to receiving registration.”

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-california-dmv-vw-diesel-20150921-story.html



U.S. taxpayers duped into shelling out $51 million in green subsidies for 'clean' VW vehicles

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-vw-subsidies-20150922-story.html

Buyer beware of green subsidies.
 
Drop a granade into yellowstone's old faithfull?

:shrug:

Super caldera, send us back to the ice age.

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I like burning coal
it keeps me warm,
it keeps the locals employed
it provides revenue to the small time coal seller I buy from
it provides jobs to the truckers that haul the coal to the seller I buy from
It provides fuel taxes to the state from the trucker, who hauls the coal,
it provides gas taxes to the state from me having to drive to the seller to pick up the coal.
it makes a nice ash that when spread on the icy driveway, gives me traction.
it provides jobs to the companies that make the bags that holds the coal
It makes a nice glow in the stove so I don’t need a night light at night.
it gives me good exercise hauling 50 pound bags of coal into the house
it gives me a good alternative to cook, other than using the electric stove
It keeps me warm even when the electric is out from a storm
It’s all black and shiny like glass. I like that
it keeps my electric usage down
it saves me money
I like coal
 
Well I have had fun reading all of this. It took quite awhile to do that. Except for Pete's remarks which I finished reading all of his stuff in about 33 seconds. Wouldn't have taken me that long if I had not laughed and giggled a little so much.

My conclusions are this;

I don't know if mankind is responsible for the Climate change.

I also am convinced that the largest threats are as follow(not necessarily in any order of probability)

1. Old Yellow Blows Up and we are done.
2. Giant meteor hits the earth and again we are done
3. We get caught in the Quasar pule beam Yep we are done
4. Pandemic - most probable IMO and half of us are gone which solves Manmade Global Climate problem
5. Nuclear War - WW3 - We are done
6. Over population and we all starve but maybe we have WW3 either way Global Climate change will be forgotten
7. Did I say Pandemic - yep we might have two
8. We don't fix it, we consume all energy reserves and the dinosaurs return and eat us
and finally
9. We fix Global climate change, We all become one master race of 30 billion people and happily sing Koom Bi ya
 
A non-appraiser told me it was going to be the pandemic thing, and that humans are already adopting to the possibility of many fewer, by becoming Asexual, and the governement knows that, that's why they are dissolving the historical marriage bans and spreading more free love of the tolerances between differences of people.

I told them they read too many facebook posts.

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