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Fannie couldn't find Fannies fat arse with both hands on her hips, but we as a civilized society we are in her hands. Hope and Change 2017. Make America Great Again.:dancefool:

I have my reservations with Fannie Mae about some things, but I have been to their offices and they are actually trying to do right by the market and report their findings. Do I agree with everything? I do not. But, I do agree with many of their findings from the appraisal reviews they have done just by my own experience doing field reviews. There are a lot of uneducated appraisers who do not keep up with the times on just about everything. There are a lot good appraisers out there, but unfortunately they get any attention for doing their jobs correctly. Just like everything else in this world, the bad apples get all the press.
 
What next to the horseshoe. Sure pick the biggest outlier to discredit when you don't know.
You stated that there are no condos in Ohio that sell for $300/sf....I simply provided relevant information that proves that your statement is is incorrect.

By the way there are condo units in Cinncinati that have sold for more than 400/sf in the past year and even 1 in Cleveland that sold for $313/sf this month.

Good job not knowing what you are talking about before you pop-off with your typical nonsense.
 
Hi, I need a little help. When writing a comment for adjustments like, bath, garage, central air..., how should the comment read? I am having trouble writing a narrative explanation versus noting what was adjusted for and amount. I need help on this as I am not an English major :). What should the narrative look like. I am wanting to be a better report writer. Thank you.

This is an example of how I do the sales comments. Some properties that are simpler have fewer comments, the more complex properties may take considerably more narrative.


Comments on the Sales Comparison Approach:
The Anderson Valley is a very large, but sparsely populated region. Very few sales of any kind in any given year. Property values in the Anderson Valley have remained more or less stable during the previous 18 to 24 months. Extremely few sales in the last year or two in Boonville and the comparable sales presented in this report are the most reasonably similar, proximate and recent available (see attached list of all transactions and listings in Boonville.)


The subject’s combination of characteristics such as type of construction, condition, lot size and amenities were very difficult to bracket with the available sales and large and/or numerous adjustments were unavoidable. This is not uncommon for this area.


Adjustments:
Market change ("time") adjustments - Some of the sales (comp 2 for example) are somewhat dated but there is no evidence that a market change adjustment is warranted or could be supported. See attached market analysis comments.

GLA adjustment developed using trend analysis and then refined using sensitivity analysis. This analysis indicates that an adjustment of about $125 per square foot is reasonable and supported. Data is inadequate to make adjustments when GLA varies by less than about 150 square feet. I did not round the adjustments which were calculated using the "auto adjustment" function of my software.

Based on analysis of land and lot sales in the area, I have made varying adjustments for lot size differences. Larger lots, say 20 acres, contain surplus land and I have made downward adjustments at $10,000/acre. The smaller 1-acre lot sizes were adjusted upward at $25,000/acre ± for the subject's larger lot size which contains some excess land and which could be subdivided.

Property condition adjustments are based on estimate of cost plus a factor for entrepreneurial incentive. These adjustments were somewhat subjective due to quality and quantity of the data. I was able to interview two agents for two different properties. This market is not sensitive to chronological age of residential improvements.

Some differences, such as half baths, garages versus shops, fireplaces, etc. are not significant elements of comparison and adjustments were not made.

All sales used were listed on BAREIS with various lengths of marketing time. There are no indications that they are anything other than arms-length transactions with appropriate exposure time and I assume this is the case. See attached MLS Photo addendum.


Comp 1: 18680 Lambert Lane - This sale is relevant because it is recent and located in very close proximity to the subject on Lambert Lane (located on Lambert Lane proper rather than the shared access road the subject is located on.) 20 acre± tract of land improved with an older single family residence and a barn. The property initially had an older mobile home on the property (as described in MLS) but the listing/selling agent (Jimmy Humble of North Country Realty) stated that the property could not be financed with the mobile home and it was demolished and removed during the escrow process.) There are no records as to the GLA of this property and the agent estimated it at about 1,000 square feet. The agent also stated that the attic or loft area had been finished with two additional bedrooms (for a total of 4 beds). Very large adjustments required for lot size difference and GLA. The agent stated that the interior was in average condition but there were no MLS interior photos and I could not determine if an adjustment was necessary. Original list price was $699,000 and the final sale price was $623,000. 130 days on market (agent stated the mobile home issue was the reason for the extended marketing period.)

Comp 2: 13360 Estate Dr. - Somewhat dated sale but included due to lack of sales in this market. Located in the Estates subdivision near the downtown area. This neighborhood is located adjacent to the community airfield and some properties include airplane hangers and front the airfields runway. This property is located on a street behind those that front the airfield. Properties in the development typically sell for less than other locations but pricing is inconsistent and an adjustment could not be supported. 1.1 acre site which required an adjustment as noted above. Smaller 2 bedroom, 2 bath residence with a 2 car garage and two small outbuildings. Original list price and final sale price was $429,000. 27 days on market.

Comp 3: 12951 Anderson Valley Way - Relatively recent sale just north of the central business district. 1-acre lot improved with a single family residence more similar in size to the subject (size estimated by listing/selling agent Jimmy Humble of North Country). The smaller lot required an upward adjustment as noted above. The residence is well updated and in good (C3) condition and this required a downward adjustment as noted above. Property also features a 2 bedroom second dwelling unit in good condition. Original list price was $649,000, sold at $605,000 with 53 days on market.

Comp 4: 13240 Orbaun Rd. - This is the only listing found with any reasonable similarity. Located on Ornbaun Road which is south of the downtown area and overlooks the airfield and valley. Older, rustic single family residence and 1.6 acre lot. Smaller two bedroom, 1 bath home. GLA listed at 1,440 square feet. Listing agent (Anne Fashauer of North County Boonville) states that the original garage was converted to living area which is included in the 1,440 square feet noted. View could be improved if the trees on the lot were cut or trimmed. List price is $425,000 and the property has been on the market for 57 days.
 
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What was Fannies adjustment? I missed that part. Oh they just don't like ours.

Well Well Well. I'm sure they would love to adjust TimD $313 per square foot. Imagine the possibilities.
 
What was Fannies adjustment? I missed that part. Oh they just don't like ours.

Well Well Well. I'm sure they would love to adjust TimD $313 per square foot. Imagine the possibilities.
Sometimes a GLA adjustment of $300+/sf is appropriate in an extremely upper upper end market and sometimes it is not, it depends on market reaction....not a difficult concept for a competent appraiser to understand
 
"WASHINGTON -- Federal regulators issued a blistering report about mortgage giant Fannie Mae on Tuesday, alleging accounting manipulation aimed at lining executives' pockets and lying to investors about smooth growth in profits and earnings. The government-sponsored mortgage company was fined $400 million and agreed to limit its growth."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/24/AR2006052400631_pf.html

Over the last decade or so fannie learned how not to manipulate.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull****

Same post that you ignored last time.
Lets revisit it again. Using your term "BS" ...What part of this is deceitful, deceptive or foolish - aka BS?
If you don't, then we know that you are the one spreading BS.

Here you go... show us an example of a few lines that are BS

Adjustments made to the comparables are based on analysis of historic sales data of thousands of properties over an extensive time period. Through the use of paired sales when available within a particular sub market, the use of sensitivity analysis when appropriate, interviews with RE agents, potential buyers and sellers, RE investors and other market participants the appraiser has developed adjustments within local market sub markets (size, lot size, price range etc) that are reflective of typical market participants reaction to the various differences in amenities, condition, quality etc. Adjustments are not necessarily "derived or developed" for each individual appraisal report in a vacuum, but are derived and developed over a long period of time of analyzing similar properties in a particular market sub segment repetitively.

Adjustments made to the comparables are based on analysis of historic sales data of thousands of properties over an extensive time period.

In my opinion this statement is a wordy way to say "appraiser's experience".

Through the use of paired sales when available within a particular sub market, the use of sensitivity analysis when appropriate, interviews with RE agents, potential buyers and sellers, RE investors and other market participants the appraiser has developed adjustments within local market sub markets (size, lot size, price range etc) that are reflective of typical market participants reaction to the various differences in amenities, condition, quality etc.

What are/who are potential buyers and sellers (and other market participants); just about anyone you pass walking down the street or in a shopping mall or in a movie theater is a "potential buyer and seller".
Possibly a tiny bit of "exaggeration"...?

Adjustments are not necessarily "derived or developed" for each individual appraisal report in a vacuum, but are derived and developed over a long period of time of analyzing similar properties in a particular market sub segment repetitively.

Sounds a wordy way to acknowledge a Book...

I'm not putting down the paragraph....
Because I'm sure if you read my reports you would see similar type language, of course less wordy....
And from what you have shared, you write similarly to the above paragraph....
I called the paragraph BS boilerplate because it is....
What does it really explain to the reader?

Considering a nonskippy/nonjiffy appraiser probably performs between 200-300 appraisals per year it would take several years to build up a data base from thousands of properties (I guess one could include sales of properties that one never did an interior inspection). Because the market changes every few years, what good are the 1st couple of thousand properties when it comes to current market trends and adjustment figures?

I don't know about you but in all my years of appraising, I've met a very small handful of sellers and even less buyers during my home inspections. Again, "potential" buyers and sellers may mean something else. But to meet and interview a sufficient number of buyers/sellers all living in a local sub-market in order for someone to support adjustments is a stretch of the imagination and logic....

While I understand the concept of a "vacuum", what the does this term truly have to do with supporting adjustments?
And the rest of the sentence seems to confirm a Book....

You can disagree, but to me this is boilerplate and it is BS because it can be interpreted to be "baloney"....
But again, I have no issues with it...

The issue I have is when appraisers who employ similar type paragraphs in their own reports decide it's okay to post another appraiser's report and belittle and label that appraiser a skippy for doing the same....
 
Funny, I did an appraisal today of a house less than 10 years old and after sensitivity was applied the adjustment went from $40 to $30 to $20 per sf. So much for Fannie Mae and the great CU findings.
(you are saying)no condos in Ohio that sell for $300/sf
I have a problem with all this. If the cost of new construction is $200/SF, then the SF adjustment cannot exceed the RCN/SF. "Value" thus has to accrue to the LAND. And even a condo has an ownership stake in a particular space within that site, the common area, and the "perks" of ownership of that space. Perhaps that is a very von Thünen concept, but someone is lumping all these ownership interests in a single adjustment to the improvements and I don't think that is good appraisal practice. I am confident it is contrary to Graaskamp, Botkin, and others over the years who have published. Once you EXTRACT the land value and less tangible rights associated with the comps, what is left BY THE BOOK is going to be less than cost to build new or the prudent buyer would build. That's simple classic appraisal theory....and we do believe in that don't we, or are we supposed to make it up as we go?

The biggest problem and the one I think trips up appraisers the worst is undervaluing a site (bare land), often because the lot sale is lower when sold, but as full development comes, scarcity suggests demand in that development would potentially drive the land value much higher than when the last lot sold.
 
anyone you pass walking down the street or in a shopping mall or in a movie theater is a "potential buyer and seller".
"Everybody is a potential murderer. I've never killed any one, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices." -Clarence Darrow.
 
I have had many admit to me that they have used artificially low adjustments in order to keep adjustment percentages down.

Had a guy who admitted that in a tax appeal case. Idiot.
 
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